rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad

Succubus Club, Hand Size & Empty Libraries

2 messages from 2 participants · 10 September 2001 – 11 September 2001
original thread on Google Groups

Brad Ward

LSJ has ruled that you must trade a card in your hand along with any card inplay that would increase handsize ie. Trading the Elder Library away you must also give a card from your hand. From this ruling once someone depletes their library they are no longer allowed to trade the following cards because they cannot trade a card along with it: Christionus Lionel Cassandra Elder Library Visit from the Capuchin . Just seems kind of wrong to me that you can't trade these "in-play" cards if you run out of library cards. -Brad Prince of NLV

LSJ

Brad Ward wrote: > > LSJ has ruled that you must trade a card in your hand along with any > card inplay that would increase handsize ie. Trading the Elder Library > away you must also give a card from your hand. I didn't rule that you "must trade a card", I ruled that you must followed card text. Trading the Elder Library normally means that the recipient will find herself in violation of the card text unless a card is also traded. But other options exist - you could trade an Elder Library for a Visit from the Capuchin with one counter, for example, or you could trade it to a Methuselah who already has fewer cards in hand than her handsize allows, as I've stated earlier. > From this ruling once someone depletes their library they are no > longer allowed to trade the following cards because they cannot trade > a card along with it: > Christionus Lionel > Cassandra > Elder Library > Visit from the Capuchin > . > Just seems kind of wrong to me that you can't trade these "in-play" > cards if you run out of library cards. No. With that logic (ignoring the "results" part of SC), once Meth. C ran out of cards and has fewer cards in hand than handsize allows, then no trades could occur between, say, A and B (see card text on SC to verify). As it is (with the word "results" observed in SC card text), you need only make sure that the trade doesn't create the situation, as I've said. -- LSJ (vte...@white-wolf.com) V:TES Net.Rep for White Wolf, Inc. Links to revised rulebook, rulings, errata, and tournament rules: http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/