rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad

Somes Rules Questions (LSJ)

4 messages from 4 participants · 22 May 2001
original thread on Google Groups

Gregory

LSJ, Greetings! I believe I know the answers to most of these, but I would appreciate some official clarifications from you. Here goes: 1) Is The Trick of Danya a Directed action. Who may block this action? Just my prey? Or can both my predator and Prey? 2) Is Sensory Deprivation a Directed action? Again who may block this action? Just the player whose vampire is targeted or only you predator and prey? 3) Which wins... Strike: Comabt ends or Rotscheck? [Ex. I intercept another players vamps action. That player plays Strike: Combat Ends on his vamp. Can I then play Wolf Claws and a Rotscheck and send them to torpor?] 4) Also, Can Rotscheck be used at long range if I use a ranged aggravated strike? Thanks for all the good work, Gregory

The Lasombra

>===== Original Message From Gregory <PrinceOfP...@mac.com> ===== >1) Is The Trick of Danya a Directed action? Yes. > Who may block this action? Your Prey, Anneke, anyone playing Eagle's Sight. >2) Is Sensory Deprivation a Directed action? Yes. > Again who may block this action? The minions of the Methuselah whose minion is targeted, Anneke, anyone using Eagle's Sight. >3) Which wins... Strike: Comabt ends or Rotscheck? Rotschreck. > [Ex. I intercept another players vamps action. That player plays > Strike: Combat Ends on his vamp. Can I then play Wolf Claws and > a Rotscheck and send them to torpor?] If at close range, yes. >4) Also, Can Rotscheck be used at long range if I use a ranged >aggravated strike? Yes. Carpe Noctem. Lasombra http://www.TheLasombra.com Carpe Noctem. Lasombra http://lasombra.tripod.com http://legbiter.tripod.com http://vekn_clans.tripod.com

James Coupe

<Please note: HTML is generally considered unwelcome on Usenet> In message <3B0990AB...@mac.com>, Gregory <PrinceOfP...@mac.com> writes >1) Is The Trick of Danya a Directed action. Who may block this action? >Just my prey? Or can both my predator and Prey? From the White Wolf web site rulebook. "Who May Attempt to Block: If the action targets another Methuselah (or something controlled by another Methuselah), then the action is called directed, and the Methuselah who is the target (or controls the target) of the action may use her ready untapped minions to attempt to block the action. If the action is not directed at another Methuselah (or at something controlled by another Methuselah), then the action is called undirected* and can be blocked by the acting Methuselah's prey or predator, with the prey getting the first opportunity to block. If one attempt to block fails, another can be made as often as the blocking Methuselah wishes. Once a Methuselah decides not to make any further attempts to block, that decision is final. As a convenience, when a card describes an action that is typically directed at another Methuselah, the card's text will usually include a (D) symbol as a reminder that the action is typically directed." Since it targets something controlled by another Methuselah, it's directed. (A la Etrius's built in steal.) As such, only your prey (the target) can block it. >2) Is Sensory Deprivation a Directed action? Yes. >Again who may block this >action? Just the player whose vampire is targeted or only you predator >and prey? Just the targeted vampire's controller. >3) Which wins... Strike: Comabt ends or Rotscheck? If you play Rotschreck before allowing Strike: Combat Ends to resolve, Rotschreck "wins". Remember, S:CE does not resolve immediately upon being played. You have to finish the Choose Strike phase first. Rotschreck can be played at any point during that phase (assuming conditions are met etc.) "Rotschreck is played when the attempt to use aggravated damage is announced. If the attempt is in the form of a strike, Rotschreck is played during the strike announcement phase (before any damage prevention can be played). It can be played after the other strike is announced, however. [LSJ 19990217]" >[Ex. I intercept >another players vamps action. That player plays Strike: Combat Ends on >his vamp. Can I then play Wolf Claws and a Rotscheck and send them to >torpor?] Yes. >4) Also, Can Rotscheck be used at long range if I use a ranged >aggravated strike? Yes. Effectively, if the strike would send the vampire to torpor (assuming nothing else was in operation, no damage prevention, changing etc.) then Rotschreck can be played. "Cannot be played in response to an announcement of a strike (or other effect) that is not effective at the current range. [RTR 19980928]" Since the strike is efffective at the current range, it's perfectly playable. -- James Coupe PGP Key: 0x5D623D5D "You reinstall Dial-Up Networking. The Elf screams and becomes EBD690ECD7A1F an icon. *** CONGRATULATIONS! *** You completed the BT Internet B457CA213D7E6 Helpdesk training course in 15 out of a possible 9000 moves." 68C3695D623D5D

LSJ

James Coupe wrote: > In message <3B0990AB...@mac.com>, Gregory <PrinceOfP...@mac.com> writes [Many correct and well-documented answers snipped] > >4) Also, Can Rotscheck be used at long range if I use a ranged > >aggravated strike? > > Yes. Effectively, if the strike would send the vampire to torpor > (assuming nothing else was in operation, no damage prevention, changing > etc.) then Rotschreck can be played. Not quite true. Torpor-sending strikes like Coma and Entombment do not qualify. That should be: "Effectively, if the strike would inflict aggravated damage on the vampire (regardless of how that vampire handled that aggravated damage), then Rotschreck can be played). -- LSJ (vte...@white-wolf.com) V:TES Net.Rep for White Wolf, Inc. Links to revised rulebook, rulings, errata, and tournament rules: http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/