Toreador Grand Ball

Hi all (second try) Can someone tell me how exactly Toreador Grand Ball works? Especially when the Great Dancer dies and revives again (totally hypothetical ofcourse) W

Wouter Kuyper wrote: > Can someone tell me how exactly Toreador Grand Ball works? Put it into play. Choose a Toreador to be the "guest" (the "first" Toreador). Choose another Toreador to be the "host" (the "second" Toreador). Tap the host (you can choose a tapped host and then "tap" him). (The same host may be chosen for more than on Grand Ball.) The host doesn't untap as normal while he's a Toreador. The guest cannot be blocked while he's a Toreador except when he attempts to bleed. The Grand Ball remains in play and in effect until it leaves by the method stated on the card or by other explicit methods (ousting, etc.) It doesn't care if the host leaves play, nor does it care if the guest leaves play. > Especially when the Great Dancer dies and revives again > (totally hypothetical ofcourse) What's a Great Dancer? -- LSJ (vte...@white-wolf.com) V:TES Net.Rep for White Wolf, Inc. Links to V:TES news, rules, cards, utilities, and tournament calendar: http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/

LSJ <vte...@white-wolf.com> wrote in message news:<3DECA9CF...@white-wolf.com>... > Wouter Kuyper wrote: > > Can someone tell me how exactly Toreador Grand Ball works? > > Put it into play. > Choose a Toreador to be the "guest" (the "first" Toreador). > Choose another Toreador to be the "host" (the "second" Toreador). > Tap the host (you can choose a tapped host and then "tap" him). > (The same host may be chosen for more than on Grand Ball.) > The host doesn't untap as normal while he's a Toreador. > The guest cannot be blocked while he's a Toreador except when > he attempts to bleed. > The Grand Ball remains in play and in effect until it leaves by > the method stated on the card or by other explicit methods > (ousting, etc.) > It doesn't care if the host leaves play, nor does it care if the > guest leaves play. > Ok, understood so far, thx > > Especially when the Great Dancer dies and revives again > > (totally hypothetical ofcourse) > > What's a Great Dancer? In your words that would be the guest. :-) So the question is then, What happens if The guest is burned, or removed from play, (the Ball is still working) and then he comes back by re-influencing him or re-posses him? W

The answer on my last question is probably already answered on the WW-Forum,...but thx anyway, W

Wouter Kuyper wrote: > LSJ <vte...@white-wolf.com> wrote: > > Wouter Kuyper wrote: > > > Can someone tell me how exactly Toreador Grand Ball works? > > > > Put it into play. > > Choose a Toreador to be the "guest" (the "first" Toreador). > > Choose another Toreador to be the "host" (the "second" Toreador). > > Tap the host (you can choose a tapped host and then "tap" him). > > (The same host may be chosen for more than on Grand Ball.) > > The host doesn't untap as normal while he's a Toreador. > > The guest cannot be blocked while he's a Toreador except when > > he attempts to bleed. > > The Grand Ball remains in play and in effect until it leaves by > > the method stated on the card or by other explicit methods > > (ousting, etc.) > > It doesn't care if the host leaves play, nor does it care if the > > guest leaves play. > > > So the question is then, What happens if The guest is burned, or > removed from play, (the Ball is still working) > and then he comes back by re-influencing him or re-posses him? If he was Banished: He's still the guest. Banished vampires remember themselves and other effects in play remember them as well. If he was burned: He's a new vampire. He isn't the guest. (Nor is he the target of a Rack that targetted his previous incarnation, etc.) All effects are forgotten. He starts with a clean slate. [ quoted text not captured ]

> If he was Banished: > He's still the guest. Banished vampires remember themselves and other > effects in play remember them as well. > Does that mean that a tapped banished vamp remains tapped in the uncontrolled area? GP41

GP41 wrote: ::: If he was Banished: [ quoted text not captured ] ther is no such state as "tapped" or "untapped" int he uncontrolled area. When a card enters the controlled area, it is "untapped" by default. reyda