LSJ Additional Strikes

In a JOL game I am playing Lorrie Dunsirn has just blocked Andrea Giovanni who only has 2 blood on him. Now Lorries additional strike already exists, effectively 'been played' so surely she has to do something with that additional strike, such as the default hands strike, or can she chose to not use her additional strike? Sam

[ quoted text not captured ] Why do you bother ? Just kick that damn Andrea's butt, he killed me !! ;)

Jazzbeaux wrote: [ quoted text not captured ] IANLSJ but "She gets an additional strike each round" compare with Jacko "Jacko gets an OPTIONAL additional strike during the first round of combat." (emphasis mine) I would say that the lack of the word optional in Lorries card text makes the strike mandatory. Frede

>> Sam > > Why do you bother ? Just kick that damn Andrea's butt, he killed me !! > ;) I would, but Ghost controls Lorrie, and is less keen on torporing Fernandos only ready vampire... Sam

> IANLSJ but > > "She gets an additional strike each round" > > compare with Jacko > > "Jacko gets an OPTIONAL additional strike during the first round of > combat." (emphasis mine) > > I would say that the lack of the word optional in Lorries card text makes > the strike mandatory. That is what we are thinking, but would be nice to have it officially. Sam

hmmm....good question. But I believe additional strikes unless stated as mandatory are optional. But I've been known to be wrong before. -tpl

FC wrote: > Jazzbeaux wrote: >> In a JOL game I am playing Lorrie Dunsirn has just blocked Andrea >> Giovanni who only has 2 blood on him. Now Lorries additional strike >> already exists, effectively 'been played' so surely she has to do >> something with that additional strike, such as the default hands >> strike, or can she chose to not use her additional strike? >> > "She gets an additional strike each round" > I would say that the lack of the word optional in Lorries card text > makes the strike mandatory. Correct. -- That is my story, be it bitter or be it sweet. Keep a little and let a little come back to me. LSJ (vtesr...@TRAPwhite-wolf.com) V:TES Net.Rep (remove spam trap to reply) http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/

"LSJ" <vtesr...@TRAPwhite-wolf.com> wrote in message news:6Qy4f.15847$QE1....@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net... > FC wrote: >> Jazzbeaux wrote: >>> In a JOL game I am playing Lorrie Dunsirn has just blocked Andrea >>> Giovanni who only has 2 blood on him. Now Lorries additional strike >>> already exists, effectively 'been played' so surely she has to do >>> something with that additional strike, such as the default hands strike, >>> or can she chose to not use her additional strike? >>> >> "She gets an additional strike each round" >> I would say that the lack of the word optional in Lorries card text makes >> the strike mandatory. > > Correct. She also "has a press" like Frenzy/Trap/Talbot's and cannot press to end due to her card text. Is she thus similarly forced to use her press to continue? Or is the press optional, even though it does not explicitly say so? Cheers, WES

Andrew 'Wes' Weston wrote: > She also "has a press" like Frenzy/Trap/Talbot's and cannot press to end due > to her card text. > > Is she thus similarly forced to use her press to continue? Or is the press > optional, even though it does not explicitly say so? Um, yeah. Like Boxed In's press is not optional. That is: card text. [ quoted text not captured ]

On Mon, 17 Oct 2005 21:06:32 GMT, LSJ <vtesr...@TRAPwhite-wolf.com> scrawled: >Andrew 'Wes' Weston wrote: >> She also "has a press" like Frenzy/Trap/Talbot's and cannot press to end due >> to her card text. >> >> Is she thus similarly forced to use her press to continue? Or is the press >> optional, even though it does not explicitly say so? > >Um, yeah. Like Boxed In's press is not optional. That is: card text. which round does she have to use her press in? For example, is she allowed to play card to press in the first round, and then use her built in in the second round? If she is allowed to choose to do that, does that mean she can choose not to use her built in press in the first round and just not press? Or is she required to use her mandatory press first up each combat? and thus, if she is blocking, and the acting minion doesn't want a second round and all they have is a press to continue, so they play it, and then lorrie is forced to press to end? or can you play multiple presses to continue, even if the opposing minion has pressed to continue? salem http://www.users.tpg.com.au/adsltqna/VtES/index.htm (replace "hotmail" with "yahoo" to email)

[ quoted text not captured ] She can't press to end by her card text, so she doesn't use her press, as the rules prohibit pressing to continue if there's already an uncanceled press to continue. Like most situations (being grappled after maneuvering with a gun, for example, or blocked hunting at zero blood and play change of target), if you're forced to do something you can't do, you do nothing instead. I *think* that this means she still has an unused press on the second round in your second example. It's the only thing that makes sense to me. [ quoted text not captured ]

jnew...@difsol.com wrote: > salem wrote: >>which round does she have to use her press in? She uses it as soon as it is legal to do so. Like multiple traps waiting to "set off" their presses in a given round. >>For example, is she allowed to play card to press in the first round, >>and then use her built in in the second round? No. She uses her innate press. (Like the press from Trap or Talbot's "sneaks in" first.) >>If she is allowed to choose to do that, does that mean she can choose >>not to use her built in press in the first round and just not press? ? Already answered. >>Or is she required to use her mandatory press first up each combat? It is non-optional, per card text. >>and thus, if she is blocking, and the acting minion doesn't want a >>second round and all they have is a press to continue, so they play >>it, and then lorrie is forced to press to end? >> >>or can you play multiple presses to continue, even if the opposing >>minion has pressed to continue? > > She can't press to end by her card text, so she doesn't use her press, > as the rules prohibit pressing to continue if there's already an > uncanceled press to continue. Like most situations (being grappled > after maneuvering with a gun, for example, or blocked hunting at zero > blood and play change of target), if you're forced to do something you > can't do, you do nothing instead. > > I *think* that this means she still has an unused press on the second > round in your second example. It's the only thing that makes sense to > me. Correct. [ quoted text not captured ]