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LSJ: Massassis Honor

8 messages from 4 participants · 15 July 2009
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Zsolko

Massassi's Honor Type: Action Modifier Requires: Osebo Only usable when this Osebo is blocked (play before combat, if any). Choose a ready untapped Osebo you control who could take that action, put this card in play, and move any other cards this Osebo !!! played!!! this action from your ash heap to this card. After this action, the chosen Osebo must attempt the same action (with the same target, if any). He or she may play cards from this card as if from your hand. Burn this card at the end of that action or if the action is not possible. Osebo1: plays an Ambush, he is blocked, plays a Crocodil Tongue, the opponent cancels the card by burning bloods Osebo2: plays Massassis Honor Osebo1: enters combat (as result of block), plays a lot of combat cards QUESTION 1 Osebo2 must do the Ambush against the same vampire ? QUESTION 1 / A What if the original target is no longer tapped (request from Ambush) QUESTION 2 Can I move the combat cards played during combat (after first block) on Massassis Honor and play them in combat when Ambush will succesful QUESTION 2 / A Can I play those combat cards even if the Ambush will be second time blocked (in resulting combat)

LSJ

Zsolko wrote: > Osebo1: plays an Ambush, he is blocked, plays a Crocodil Tongue, the > opponent cancels the card by burning bloods > Osebo2: plays Massassis Honor > Osebo1: enters combat (as result of block), plays a lot of combat > cards > > QUESTION 1 > Osebo2 must do the Ambush against the same vampire ? Card text: "with the same target" > QUESTION 1 / A > What if the original target is no longer tapped? Then the action is no longer possible. > QUESTION 2 > Can I move the combat cards played during combat (after first block) > on Massassis Honor and play them in combat when Ambush will succesful No. Card text: "play before combat ... move any other cards this Osebo played this action ... to this card". "played", not "plays". > QUESTION 2 / A > Can I play those combat cards even if the Ambush > will be second time blocked (in resulting combat) Moot. [ quoted text not captured ]

Zsolko

OK Ambush => block -> lot of combat before strikes -> form of mist -> second block -> massassis honor can I put the combat cards from first combat on MassHon?

LSJ

[ quoted text not captured ] Yes. Card text: "move any other cards this Osebo played this action ... to this card".

Asnek

On 15. Júl, 12:12 h., LSJ <vtes...@white-wolf.com> wrote: > Zsolko wrote: > > Osebo1: plays an Ambush, he is blocked, plays a Crocodil Tongue, the > > opponent cancels the card by burning bloods > > Osebo2: plays Massassis Honor > > Osebo1: enters combat (as result of block), plays a lot of combat > > cards > > > QUESTION 1 / A > > What if the original target is no longer tapped? > > Then the action is no longer possible. > > > Massassi's Honor > > > > Type: Action Modifier > > Requires: Osebo > > Only usable when this Osebo is blocked (play before combat, if any). > > Choose a ready untapped Osebo you control who could take that action, > > put this card in play, and move any other cards this Osebo !!! > > played!!! this action from your ash heap to this card. After this > > action, the chosen Osebo must attempt the same action (with the same > > target, if any). He or she may play cards from this card as if from > > your hand. Burn this card at the end of that action or if the action > > is not possible. > > so just to verify several other related and following questions: Osebo B tries to play Ambus. as the tagret is no longer valid what will apply from following - Ambus and associated Massassi honor just "fizzles" - osebo B will be tapped or not? - Can Osebo B play another ambus the same round (because of NRA and possible fizzle i am not sure) and one more question: if target will be valid, Osebo B will enter combat. as he will be playing again action Ambus. can be the second one Directed? i know that direct heve to be played immediately but as Osebo B is attempting the same action he have to play the same card (as it is placed on massasiss honor and not in ash heap)

LSJ

Asnek wrote: [ quoted text not captured ] A minion may not attempt to take an action that is not possible. Card text says what to do if the action is not possible. > and one more question: > if target will be valid, Osebo B will enter combat. as he will be > playing again action Ambus. can be the second one Directed? It targets another Methuselah's minion, so it is directed. It must be. > i know that direct heve to be played immediately but as Osebo B is > attempting the same action he have to play the same card (as it is > placed on massasiss honor and not in ash heap) He has to play the Ambush to take the action. That play can be canceled with appropriate cards, like Direct Intervention, yes.

Blooded Sand

On Jul 15, 4:45 pm, LSJ <vtes...@white-wolf.com> wrote: > Asnek wrote: > > and one more question: > > if target will be valid, Osebo B will enter combat. as he will be > > playing again action Ambus. can be the second one Directed? > > It targets another Methuselah's minion, so it is directed. It must be. LSJ, I think he means DI....

LSJ

[ quoted text not captured ] Yeah. See the rest of the message.