rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad

Stealth/intercept question [LSJ]

6 messages from 4 participants · 13 June 2002
original thread on Google Groups

Javelin

The rulebook states that you can only add stealth or intercept during an action if the acting/blocking minion needs it. But what about reducing stealth/intercept? Can you play inferior Ignis Fatuus even if the acting minion's stealth doesn't exceed any blocker's intercept? Does a block attempt even have to be made for you to play the card? On the action modifier side, can a Daughter of Cacophony play inferior The Missing Voice just to cycle the card, even if no block attempts are being made?

reyda

"Javelin" <javel...@yahoo.co.jp> wrote in message news:983fc7e7.02061...@posting.google.com... > The rulebook states that you can only add stealth or intercept during > an action if the acting/blocking minion needs it. But what about > reducing stealth/intercept? Can you play inferior Ignis Fatuus even if > the acting minion's stealth doesn't exceed any blocker's intercept? Yes =) > Does a block attempt even have to be made for you to play the card? No ! > On the action modifier side, can a Daughter of Cacophony play inferior > The Missing Voice just to cycle the card, even if no block attempts > are being made? Yes =) and most of the time i myself end up playing this card for the purpose of cycling. reyda

LSJ

[ quoted text not captured ] Correct. -- LSJ (vte...@white-wolf.com) V:TES Net.Rep for White Wolf, Inc. Links to V:TES news, rules, cards, utilities, and tournament calendar: http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/

Wouter Kuyper

On (about) the same matter: If i don't get blocked (yet) and play superior bonding or fata morgana, do i get the +1 stealth? (since i usually cannot play stealth when not blocked) I thought the answer would be yes, following this: Meth A bleeds at 1 stealth Meth B attempts to block and plays enhanced senses (superior), this gives the blocking vamp 2 intercept even though he only needs 1 intercept My JOL-partners said that i was wrong (and for the game it didn't matter much), but it left me in doubt..... Were they right? Thx, W LSJ <vte...@white-wolf.com> wrote in message news:<3D07D63F...@white-wolf.com>... [ quoted text not captured ]

reyda

"Wouter Kuyper" <wouter...@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:155a2de5.02061...@posting.google.com... > On (about) the same matter: > > If i don't get blocked (yet) and play superior bonding or fata > morgana, do i get the +1 stealth? (since i usually cannot play stealth > when not blocked) no you don't get the +1 stealth. You use fata morgana for +1 bleed instead. (see new card text) The old card text prevented you to play superior fata morgana if prey declined to block because you can't add stealth when you don't need it. The new wording is more player-friendly ;)

LSJ

[ quoted text not captured ] Top-posting makes it hard to follow conversations. If you aren't refering to the message you're following-up to, then don't quote it. If you are, then intersperse your comments with the quoted text that they reference. See below: > If i don't get blocked (yet) and play superior bonding or fata > morgana, do i get the +1 stealth? (since i usually cannot play stealth > when not blocked) Can't play superior Bonding or Fata Morgana for stealth if you don't need steath. "usually" is "always" - you cannot play stealth when you don't need stealth (explicit card text to the contrary is needed to overcome this rule). > I thought the answer would be yes, following this: > > Meth A bleeds at 1 stealth > Meth B attempts to block and plays enhanced senses (superior), this > gives the blocking vamp 2 intercept even though he only needs 1 > intercept Different. You can add X intercept if you need any (even if you only "need" Y << X). Likewise, you can add X stealth if you need any. > My JOL-partners said that i was wrong (and for the game it didn't > matter much), but it left me in doubt..... > > Were they right? Yes. [ quoted text not captured ]