Some questions

Hello All I've 2 simple questions: Did the Movement of Slow Body take a vampire out of torpor? The Jihad card don't specify that, only that a vampire in torpor becomes untapped. Vampire A and B are in combat. Vampire A is the acting one and plays a Dodge in short range and Vampire B plays a SUP Scorpion Sting. What happens with Vampire A? Can change his strike or simple his dodge fails and receive the damage from Scorpion Sting? Thanks.

In article <75aqgr$bn2$1...@relay.eunet.es>, Raul Ibañez <rib...@tiasa.es> wrote: >Did the Movement of Slow Body take a vampire out of torpor? The Jihad card >don't specify that, only that a vampire in torpor becomes untapped. It does not. It does what it says it does -- it untaps a vampire in torpor. >Vampire A and B are in combat. Vampire A is the acting one and plays a Dodge >in short range and Vampire B plays a SUP Scorpion Sting. What happens with >Vampire A? Can change his strike or simple his dodge fails and receive the >damage from Scorpion Sting? The strike fails, and the opposing minion cannot choose another one. gomi -- you say they taught you how to read and write yeah, they taught you how to count i say they taught you how to buy and sell your own body by the pound

Raul Ibañez a écrit dans le message <75aqgr$bn2$1...@relay.eunet.es>... >Hello All > >I've 2 simple questions: > >Did the Movement of Slow Body take a vampire out of torpor? The Jihad card >don't specify that, only that a vampire in torpor becomes untapped. > No, the vampire stay in torpor. But you can then play another action to get him out of torpor. There are 2 cards in Fortitude that will get him out of torpor. (One comes from the Sabbat I think.) Can't remember their names because in my Gangrel combat deck, if my Gangrel is in torpor, it is because I did something wrong. This situation sould not happen with my Gangrel deck. >Vampire A and B are in combat. Vampire A is the acting one and plays a Dodge >in short range and Vampire B plays a SUP Scorpion Sting. What happens with >Vampire A? Can change his strike or simple his dodge fails and receive the >damage from Scorpion Sting? > Your strike pass through his dodge (like he did not dodge: he can't change his strike, many players try to cheat :-) ) and you score damage. It's good to deal aggravated damage this way, it makes my Gangrel puhrrrrrrr like a cat. :-) >Thanks. > > >

go...@best.com (Gomi no Sensei) wrote: > Raul Ibañez <rib...@tiasa.es> wrote: > > >Did the Movement of Slow Body take a vampire out of torpor? The J[y]had card > >don't specify that, only that a vampire in torpor becomes untapped. > > It does not. It does what it says it does -- it untaps a vampire in > torpor. > > >Vampire A and B are in combat. Vampire A is the acting one and plays a Dodge > >in short range and Vampire B plays a SUP Scorpion Sting. What happens with > >Vampire A? Can change his strike or simple his dodge fails and receive the > >damage from Scorpion Sting? > > The strike fails, and the opposing minion cannot choose another one. Correct on both points. -- L. Scott Johnson (vte...@wizards.com) VTES Net.Rep for Wizards of the Coast. Links to revised rulebook, rulings, errata, and DCI (tournament) rules: http://www.wizards.com/VTES/VTES_Rules.html -----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==---------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own

"lisa" <bob...@globetrotter.net> wrote: > > Can't remember their names because in my Gangrel combat deck, if my Gangrel > is in torpor, it is because I did something wrong. This situation sould not > happen with my Gangrel deck. Your deck can consistently stop the Dawn Op/Skin of Night/Weather Control combo and the Entombment and Coma cards? Wow. I'm impressed. Putting vampires in torpor is easy. That's why Graverobbing is a great card. Noal -- "DISCUSSION, n. A method of confirming others in their errors." -Ambrose Bierce. [ quoted text not captured ]

Dhar...@yahoo.com a écrit dans le message <75doud$u17$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>... [ quoted text not captured ] Well, these combos are not popular here (Thaumaturgy/Fortitude). In my deck, I play Elysium, the Arboretum to contest it to another player, but people here know that when I'm contesting a card I'll keep it so they don't insist and I can use it as I wish. I believe this card (combat ends -beginning of the battle) is a correct response to that kind of deck. Furthermore, I have a Gangrel deck, so I too play Skin of Night. But I admit that I would be sad if someone would "graverob" my vampire in torpor- if that happens (please not Wynn!). People here prefer to play combat/bleed decks or stealth/bleed decks. They play conventional decks and play mostly with cards that will easily leave the hand. We don't like to be slowed by cards that cannot cycle easily. :-)

In article <75come$im2$1...@news.quebectel.com>, lisa <bob...@globetrotter.net> writes >>I've 2 simple questions: >> >>Did the Movement of Slow Body take a vampire out of torpor? The Jihad card >>don't specify that, only that a vampire in torpor becomes untapped. >> >No, the vampire stay in torpor. But you can then play another action to get >him out of torpor. There are 2 cards in Fortitude that will get him out of >torpor. (One comes from the Sabbat I think.) You could also take a simple, cardless Leave Torpor action. -- James Coupe (Prince of Mercia, England) Vampire: Elder Kindred Network http://madnessnetwork.hexagon.net

On Sat, 19 Dec 1998 00:50:54 -0500, "lisa" <bob...@globetrotter.net> wrote: >Well, these combos are not popular here (Thaumaturgy/Fortitude). In my deck, >I play Elysium, the Arboretum to contest it to another player, but people >here know that when I'm contesting a card I'll keep it so they don't insist >and I can use it as I wish. I believe this card (combat ends -beginning of >the battle) is a correct response to that kind of deck. Furthermore, I have >a Gangrel deck, so I too play Skin of Night. I would expect a Gangrel deck to have a few Skin of Nights floating around. But the Elysium is no solution to this combination ... because the acting minion gets first opportunity to declare effects. Iliana rushes Wynn. Wynn blocks to deny her the maneuver. Iliana plays Dawn Operation to modify the action, making all damage aggravated. Now, combat begins. Before range is determined, Iliana plays Skin of Night and Weather Control. everyone takes an unpreventable point of SOMETHING. Now it's the reacting minion's "before range", and they can tap the Elysium to end combat, for what it's worth. (Elysium card text: "Tap to end a combat. Only usable before range is determined." - contrast this with Obedience: "Only usable when this reacting vampire is about to enter combat with an acting younger vampire.") I think this makes the Arboretum technically unusable before combat begins, also. >But I admit that I would be sad if someone would "graverob" my vampire in >torpor- if that happens (please not Wynn!). People here prefer to play >combat/bleed decks or stealth/bleed decks. They play conventional decks and >play mostly with cards that will easily leave the hand. We don't like to be >slowed by cards that cannot cycle easily. :-) grave robbing doesn't slow my Tha/For deck down at all. There ALWAYS seem to be vampires in torpor, or about to be on their way to torpor if I drew it in my first hand. ;) Getting the action OFF, now... that's a l'il trickier. But you get to cycle the card anyway. =) And they get to decide whether to block you again or not! fun, fun. Cheesy, too. But fun. -- Derek (replying by email? remove the nospam from my domain :)