Scott,
I researched this but the closest thing I could find was Kiss of Ra and
leave torpor which is altogether different.
Can you play Change of Target on a Leave torpor action to prevent your
vampire from being diablerized when blocked? My thoughts were no it
didn't prevent you from being diablerized, but it might prevent the
blocker from tapping.
What do you think?
Comments Welcome,
Norman S. Brown, Jr.
XZealot
Archon of the Swamp
X_Ze...@cox-internet.com wrote:
> Scott,
> I researched this but the closest thing I could find was Kiss of Ra and
> leave torpor which is altogether different.
>
> Can you play Change of Target on a Leave torpor action to prevent your
> vampire from being diablerized when blocked? My thoughts were no it
> didn't prevent you from being diablerized, but it might prevent the
> blocker from tapping.
Correct.
Google: ("Change of Target" torpor author:LSJ)
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad/msg/c571d8c9cf6270a6
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On Wed, 05 Jan 2005 03:03:59 GMT, LSJ <vte...@white-wolf.com>
scrawled:
>X_Ze...@cox-internet.com wrote:
>>> Scott,
>> I researched this but the closest thing I could find was Kiss of Ra and
>> leave torpor which is altogether different.
>>
>> Can you play Change of Target on a Leave torpor action to prevent your
>> vampire from being diablerized when blocked? My thoughts were no it
>> didn't prevent you from being diablerized, but it might prevent the
>> blocker from tapping.>
>Correct.
>Google: ("Change of Target" torpor author:LSJ)
>http://groups-beta.google.com/group/rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad/msg/c571d8c9cf6270a6
that ruling seems to be from before CoT got it's "end the current
action" text. presumably if you play CoT, the action is ended. no
chance for diablerie?
also, it might be worth noting that the current version of the NRA
rule does not prevent a minion attempting a 'leave torpor' action, and
then the carded 'rapid healing' version of a leave torpor action. in
fact, they could try again cardlessly if they want, seeing as 'leave
torpor' is not restricted in the same way that 'bleed' and'political
action' are.
salem
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salem wrote:
> On Wed, 05 Jan 2005 03:03:59 GMT, LSJ <vte...@white-wolf.com>
> scrawled:>>X_Ze...@cox-internet.com wrote:>>>Can you play Change of Target on a Leave torpor action to prevent your
>>>vampire from being diablerized when blocked? My thoughts were no it
>>>didn't prevent you from being diablerized, but it might prevent the
>>>blocker from tapping.>>
>>Correct.
>>Google: ("Change of Target" torpor author:LSJ)> that ruling seems to be from before CoT got it's "end the current
> action" text. presumably if you play CoT, the action is ended. no
> chance for diablerie?
Ah. Quite right.
No diablerie after the action ends.
Thanks.
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So is that a reversal? Can you spell it out for me? You know us guys
from Louisiana aren't the quickest horses in the stable.
Can you play Change of Target on a Leave torpor action to prevent your
vampire from being diablerized when blocked?
Comments Welcome,
Norman S. Brown, Jr
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<X_Ze...@cox-internet.com> wrote in message
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> LSJ wrote:
> > Ah. Quite right.
> > No diablerie after the action ends.
> > Thanks.
>
> So is that a reversal? Can you spell it out for me? You know us guys
> from Louisiana aren't the quickest horses in the stable.
>
> Can you play Change of Target on a Leave torpor action to prevent your
> vampire from being diablerized when blocked?
Sorry. Forgot with whom I was dealing. :-)
Yes. Playing Change of Target ends the action, thwarting any possibility
of combat or diablerie (barring Direct Intervention, etc.).
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salem wrote:
> also, it might be worth noting that the current version of the NRA
> rule does not prevent a minion attempting a 'leave torpor' action,
and
> then the carded 'rapid healing' version of a leave torpor action. in
> fact, they could try again cardlessly if they want, seeing as 'leave
> torpor' is not restricted in the same way that 'bleed' and'political
> action' are.
Change of Target keeps them from attempting the same leave torpor
action, however, so if they try cardlessly then CoT, they can't try
cardlessly again. They could Rapid Healing, though.
"salem" <salem_ch...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:lf3nt0l82bg273afd...@4ax.com...
> also, it might be worth noting that the current version of the NRA
> rule does not prevent a minion attempting a 'leave torpor' action, and
> then the carded 'rapid healing' version of a leave torpor action. in
> fact, they could try again cardlessly if they want, seeing as 'leave
> torpor' is not restricted in the same way that 'bleed' and'political
> action' are.
If you try to leave torpor, get blocked, they don't diablerize, and you
Freak Drive, you can try again cardlessly, for sure. But I don't think
you can if you Change of Target while trying to leave torpor - Change of
Target is more restrictive (can't try the "same action" again) than the
current No Repeat Actions rule. You can try to leave torpor, Change of
Target, Rapid Healing, though, yeah.
Josh
back, and forth
On Wed, 5 Jan 2005 14:11:14 -0500, "Joshua Duffin"
<jtdu...@yahoo.com> scrawled:
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oh yeah. i forgot about the actual 'don't do it again' text on change
of target, and was only thinking of NRA in general. thanks joshua!
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On 5 Jan 2005 10:55:05 -0800, "Emmit Svenson"
<emmits...@hotmail.com> scrawled:
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yup. i totally, you know, skipped CoT's text and went straight to the
NRA 'rule', as it current stands. My bad, and apologies to anyone who
gets stuck in torpor because of my foolishness.
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Emmit Svenson wrote:
> Change of Target keeps them from attempting the same leave torpor
> action, however, so if they try cardlessly then CoT, they can't try
> cardlessly again.
And if I've understood this correctly, Krassimir could use his/her
ability to cancel the leave torpor action and try again later. Although
this is sort of fringe since the blocker stays untapped. Well, excluding
wakes and such.
--CV