MR questions

I have some questions about Mind Rape. What happens if a Mind Raped vampire is: a) Targetted by Malkavian Time Auction? b) Selected for a Hostile Takeover? c) The target of Temptation of Greater Power? d) Mind Raped by another Methuselah? --- Eric Pettersen pe...@diderot.ucsf.edu (NeXTmail capable)

Eric Pettersen wrote: > > I have some questions about Mind Rape. What happens if a Mind Raped vampire > is: > > a) Targetted by Malkavian Time Auction? > b) Selected for a Hostile Takeover? > c) The target of Temptation of Greater Power? The controller changes. When the Mind Rape counters are all gone, the Mind Rape is burned, but it has no other effect. > d) Mind Raped by another Methuselah? The same effect, but if the second Mind Rape is burned before the first (bonus points to anyone who can say how this could be), then control reverts to the first mind rape until it is burned (and control passes back to the original controller). -- L. Scott Johnson (vte...@regency.wizards.com) Official VtES Net.Rep for Wizards of the Coast. (*) - Subject to review by Rules Team

L. Scott Johnson wrote: > > Eric Pettersen wrote: > > > > I have some questions about Mind Rape. What happens if a Mind Raped vampire > > is: > > > > a) Targetted by Malkavian Time Auction? > > b) Selected for a Hostile Takeover? > > c) The target of Temptation of Greater Power? > > The controller changes. When the Mind Rape counters are all gone, > the Mind Rape is burned, but it has no other effect. > > > d) Mind Raped by another Methuselah? > > The same effect, but if the second Mind Rape is burned before the > first (bonus points to anyone who can say how this could be), then > control reverts to the first mind rape until it is burned (and > control passes back to the original controller). > Gotta love that Goth band. (If it could move counters off cards you own, it'd be worthwhile to make a deck based around them) -- rob. (rfle...@ix.netcom.com) HELP STOP SPAM NOTE: If you wish to respond to me via email, please remove the * from the return address!

"L. Scott Johnson" <vte...@regency.wizards.com> writes: >The same effect, but if the second Mind Rape is burned before the >first (bonus points to anyone who can say how this could be), then The counters come off during untap, right? Well, if a vampire had 2 counters from a Methuselah, and then a second Methusalah MRs the same vampire, the second Meth could have his counters come off first if a 1st Tradition: Masquerade is in play. The first Meth decides to skip a turn instead of paying the pool for a turn. Also, someone could target the counters with a Goth Band. Mike

L. Scott Johnson <vte...@regency.wizards.com> writes: >Eric Pettersen wrote: >> >> I have some questions about Mind Rape. What happens if a Mind Raped vampire >> is: >> d) Mind Raped by another Methuselah? > >The same effect, but if the second Mind Rape is burned before the >first (bonus points to anyone who can say how this could be), then Wait... Mind Rape counters are removed based on end-of-controller's-turn, right ? Easy. Have one player play more turns than the other... this could be done through the 6th Tradition: the Masquerade, or more coolly, by using a succession of Kindred Restructures (or that other vote that lets you just swap places with another meth). I've been thinking about setting this up with a friend: bring two vote decks to the table, filled with Kindred Restructures. When both decks are ready, pick one of the decks' prey, make her lose some pool, then Restructure the table so that your buddy is now the next player with the chose prey as his prey. Let him bleed her some more, then Restructure. Alternate between both decks, never letting the other players play anymore... In the end it will the two allies vs each other, but well... Ugly, sure. Collusion, of course. But it would be fun to try. Once. -- Philippe

michael charles bohlmann wrote: > > "L. Scott Johnson" <vte...@regency.wizards.com> writes: > > >The same effect, but if the second Mind Rape is burned before the > >first (bonus points to anyone who can say how this could be), then > > The counters come off during untap, right? Correct, > Well, if a vampire had 2 counters from a Methuselah, and then a second > Methusalah MRs the same vampire, the second Meth could have his counters > come off first if a 1st Tradition: Masquerade is in play. The first > Meth decides to skip a turn instead of paying the pool for a turn. Correct. Very good. > Also, > someone could target the counters with a Goth Band. Rob LeGood wrote: > Gotta love that Goth band. (If it could move counters off cards you own, > it'd be worthwhile to make a deck based around them) Alas, Goth Band can only target counters on *Master Cards*, so won't be useful here. Philippe DUCHON wrote: > Wait... Mind Rape counters are removed based on end-of-controller's-turn, > right ? No, they are removed during untap (card text) > Easy. Have one player play more turns than the other... this could be done > through the 6th Tradition: the Masquerade, 1st Tradition would work, yes. > or more coolly, by using a > succession of Kindred Restructures (or that other vote that lets you just > swap places with another meth). Kindred Restructure and Dramatic Upheaval would both work if used properly. Very good (I hadn't considered that one - just 1st Tradition). [ quoted text not captured ]