Generation of a banished Vampire Q (LSJ)

Greetings, Mr LSJ. How old is a 2-cap Vampire banished with not less than six (!) skill cards on him ? Does the controller have to refill her Vamp to 8 blood points, or two, to bring him back to the controlled region ? Thanks in advance And many regards -- François Alix Toreador Primogen in Paris www.multimania.com/parisvekn Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/

François Alix <chw...@fairesuivre.com> wrote: > How old is a 2-cap Vampire banished with not less than six (!) skill > cards on him ? He's a 2-capacity, since the discpline cards are out of play. > Does the controller have to refill her Vamp to 8 blood points, or two, > to bring him back to the controlled region ? 2. -- LSJ (vte...@white-wolf.com) VTES Net.Rep for White Wolf, Inc. Links to revised rulebook, rulings, errata, and tournament rules: http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/ [ quoted text not captured ]

On Wed, 10 Jan 2001 18:43:27 GMT, LSJ <vte...@white-wolf.com> wrote: >François Alix <chw...@fairesuivre.com> wrote: >> How old is a 2-cap Vampire banished with not less than six (!) skill >> cards on him ? > >He's a 2-capacity, since the discpline cards are out of play. Out of play means that these cards are burned? Or they remain on the vampire untill he leaves uncontrolled region? Pablo Alonso, V:EKN Prince of Palma de Mallorca

In article <93iagc$8cn$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>, LSJ <vte...@white-wolf.com> wrote: > François Alix <chw...@fairesuivre.com> wrote: > > How old is a 2-cap Vampire banished with not less than six (!) skill > > cards on him ? > > He's a 2-capacity, since the discpline cards are out of play. > How about the reverse case - a 8-cap vampire with six Mind of a Child (sup)? Are the MoaC out of play, so that he needs 8 blood to become controlled - then losing six immediately? Tom [ quoted text not captured ]

Pablo Alonso <pal...@mail.ono.es> wrote: >> He's a 2-capacity, since the discpline cards are out of play. > > Out of play means that these cards are burned? Or they remain on the > vampire untill he leaves uncontrolled region? All minion cards, master cards, counters on said cards and any other game states on the vampire, regardless of controller, also go to the uncontrolled region with the vampire, cannot be contested and will not take effect again until the vampire comes back to the active region. When the vampire returns, everything is back the way it was, including who controls the cards played on it. Note that cards that merely point to a vampire (i.e., The Rack) do not follow the vampire to the uncontrolled region and can be contested. Also note that a Vampire that has had a change of political title (either gained or lost one) before it was Banished will still have that change of title in effect when it returns. In essence, as above, so below, so above again. Regards, Noal McDonald Prince of Metro Detroit -- "I was probably pretty young, when I realised that I had come from what you might call a family, a clan, a race, maybe even a species, of pure sons of bitches." --Faulkner, "The Mansion" [ quoted text not captured ]

Tom Kassel <tka...@my-deja.com> wrote: > How about the reverse case - a 8-cap vampire with six Mind of a Child > (sup)? Are the MoaC out of play, so that he needs 8 blood to become > controlled - then losing six immediately? Yes. The cards on him are out of play for as long as he remains uncontrolled. -- LSJ (vte...@white-wolf.com) VTES Net.Rep for White Wolf, Inc. Links to revised rulebook, rulings, errata, and tournament rules: http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/ [ quoted text not captured ]

In article <93kh1r$3r9$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>, Noal McDonald <dhar...@my-deja.com> wrote: > Pablo Alonso <pal...@mail.ono.es> wrote: > >> He's a 2-capacity, since the discpline cards are out of play. > > > > Out of play means that these cards are burned? Or they remain on the > > vampire untill he leaves uncontrolled region? > > All minion cards, master cards, counters on said cards and any other > game states on the vampire, Presumably the effect(s) of Violet Tremain as well. > regardless of controller, also go to the > uncontrolled region with the vampire, cannot be contested and will not > take effect again until the vampire comes back to the active region. > When the vampire returns, everything is back the way it was, including > who controls the cards played on it. > [ quoted text not captured ]