rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad

Some rules questions

9 messages from 5 participants · 07 November 2000 – 09 November 2000
original thread on Google Groups

Rafid Armani

1- Is Brujah Debate cummulative ? 2a- With Ancient Influence, do each methuselahs have to burn 5 pool, even if they don't have a vampire in play ? 2b- If I have only a vampire of 3 cap, do I lose 2 pool ? 3- Genevieve has an additionnal vote for each political action. Does it mean that she has 2 votes in the prisci vote and 1 vote in the main referendum ? 4a- Does Entombment works at long range ? 4b- And Coma ? 5a- Can I redraw to my normal hand size before playing a Voter Captivation ? 5b- And Cryptic Rider ? Thanks for your time, Rafid

Sorrow

> 1- Is Brujah Debate cummulative ? Yes. > 2a- With Ancient Influence, do each methuselahs have to burn 5 pool, > even if they don't have a vampire in play ? I believe so. I think the gaining and losing of pool are mutually exclusive. > 2b- If I have only a vampire of 3 cap, do I lose 2 pool ? That would be your net. +3 - 5 = -2 > 3- Genevieve has an additionnal vote for each political action. Does > it mean that she has 2 votes in the prisci vote and 1 vote in the main > referendum ? No. 1 vote for the Prisci subvote and 1 regular vote. So she could vote "No" for the Prisci subvote (determining how the 3 Prisci votes will be cast) and "Yes" during regular voting, for example. > 4a- Does Entombment works at long range ? No. No strike cards work at long range unless stated otherwise in the card text. > 4b- And Coma ? No, see above. > 5a- Can I redraw to my normal hand size before playing a Voter > Captivation ? Yes because it is after the referrendum phase of the Political Action. > 5b- And Cryptic Rider ? Yes, see above. > Thanks for your time, NP, though, IANLSJ. Sorrow --- I don't want to be alone | I hurt, therefore I am anymore |-------------------------------- I don't want to be anyone | "What are you looking at...? anymore | you never seen anyone try to I don't need a reason to kill myself | commit suicide before?" - Anon ------------------------------------------------------------------------

James Coupe

On Tue, 7 Nov 2000, Rafid Armani wrote: > 1- Is Brujah Debate cummulative ? Yes. > 2a- With Ancient Influence, do each methuselahs have to burn 5 pool, > even if they don't have a vampire in play ? Yes. > 2b- If I have only a vampire of 3 cap, do I lose 2 pool ? Yes. (You gain 3 then burn 5, net loss of 2.) > 3- Genevieve has an additionnal vote for each political action. Does > it mean that she has 2 votes in the prisci vote and 1 vote in the main > referendum ? 1 prisci vote, 1 main referendum vote. Any votes usable in the priscus vote have to say in large flashing neon letters (or equivalent thereof) "in the Prisci vote". > 4a- Does Entombment works at long range ? > No. All strikes work at close range unless otherwise stated. > 4b- And Coma ? No, as per 4a. > 5a- Can I redraw to my normal hand size before playing a Voter > Captivation ? > 5b- And Cryptic Rider ? Actually, I can find no mention in the new Rules Book regarding not replacing any cards during a political action. (You could always replace the card you used to call it, whilst your were still seeing if you were being blocked, but other cards thrown down during the referendum couldn't be replaced.) Potentially, it was dropped because with the limitation to 1 political action card for a vote per Methuselah, the potential for abuse of replacing is greatly lessened. I don't recall, however, seeing it mentioned as over-turned by the Rules Team. -- James Coupe | PGP Key 0x5D623D5D "Steve: Yeah, well that's one of the advantages of being a sad, lonely fairy, I guess. You get to learn how to be a spy." - Stephen Fry, Making History

James Coupe

On Tue, 7 Nov 2000, James Coupe wrote: > Actually, I can find no mention in the new Rules Book regarding not > replacing any cards during a political action. (You could always replace > the card you used to call it, whilst your were still seeing if you were > being blocked, but other cards thrown down during the referendum couldn't > be replaced.) My apologies. I can now see that political action cards burned during a referendum for a vote aren't replaced. I still can't see anything about action modifiers or similar. [ quoted text not captured ]

LSJ

James Coupe <jr...@cam.ac.uk> wrote: > James Coupe wrote: > > Actually, I can find no mention in the new Rule Book regarding not > > replacing any cards during a political action. (You could always > > replace the card you used to call it, whilst your were still seeing > > if you were being blocked, but other cards thrown down during the > > referendum couldn't be replaced.) > > My apologies. I can now see that political action cards burned > during a referendum for a vote aren't replaced. > > I still can't see anything about action modifiers or similar. "*Important:* No Methuselahs draw to replace cards during a referendum." 6.3.2, p. 32 -- LSJ (vte...@white-wolf.com) VTES Net.Rep for White Wolf, Inc. Links to revised rulebook, rulings, errata, and tournament rules: http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/ Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.

James Coupe

On Tue, 7 Nov 2000, LSJ wrote: > > I still can't see anything about action modifiers or similar. > > "*Important:* No Methuselahs draw to replace cards during a > referendum." > > 6.3.2, p. 32 One day, I will learn to read. But not today. [ quoted text not captured ]

Gomi no Sensei

In article <fNYN5.15594$mC.9...@monger.newsread.com>, Sorrow <cbo...@apdi.net> wrote: >> 2a- With Ancient Influence, do each methuselahs have to burn 5 pool, >> even if they don't have a vampire in play ? > >I believe so. I think the gaining and losing of pool are mutually >exclusive. <PEDANT> You mean 'independent,' not 'mutually exclusive.' If the events were mutually exclusive, only one of the pair would happen, but that is not the case with AInf. The pool gain event and the pool loss event are independent -- it doesn't matter to one what the status of the other is. </PEDANT> But we know that's what you meant. gomi -- "I wanted to feel that tug of a body as it jerks and kicks while I hold the handle and the life erupts from it like water from the cold springs of the Eastern Mountains. That's what I wanted, and what you want makes you who you are." - Steven Brust, Teckla

Rafid Armani

On Tue, 07 Nov 2000 19:32:27 GMT, "Sorrow" <cbo...@apdi.net> wrote: >> 1- Is Brujah Debate cummulative ? > >Yes. Ok, but can I choose the same brujah as a target for all the Brujah Debate ( a la Toreador Grand Bal ) ? Thanks, Rafid

LSJ

[ quoted text not captured ] Yes. You must, in fact, unless you have more than one at the "highest" capacity. -- LSJ (vte...@white-wolf.com) V:TES Net.Rep for White Wolf, Inc. [ quoted text not captured ]