Dog wrote:
>
> Hi LSJ,
>
> 1: Please could you run through the sequence of queries and replies which
> your play-group uses when a bleed is announced?
> Also some comment as to the implications of that sequence of comments would
> be appreciated.
> Particularly including complications such as:
> Form of Mist.
> Deflections (including to my prey and back again).
> A Bleed Modifier.
This sequence has grown up around various timing issues that we've encountered.
Some of the steps are typically skipped (*), given their low occurance rate,
but are included when the opportunity for the effect is present.
A: "Vamp1 bleeds you, B".
A: "Do you block?" (indicating a lack of modifiers like Seduction et al.)
B: "No." (indicating no block)
* A: "Anyone else want to block?" (asking for Anneke or Eagle's Sight)
* X: "No." (no cross-table-blocks)
A: "OK, bleed for 1." (indicating no modifiers)
B: "OK, I burn 1." (indicating no bounce/reduction)
* A: "OK. take it." (indicating no Spying Mission)
<X would then have the opportunity to play Major Boon>
...
* X: "No." (no cross-table-blocks)
A: "Conditioning for +2 bleed"
B: "VampB deflects to X".
A: "Do you (X) block?"
<continue>
A: "Vamp1 bleeds you, B".
A: "Do you block?" (indicating a lack of modifiers like Seduction et al.)
B: "Vamp2 blocks"
A: "OK, I'm blocked, going to combat" (indicating no stealth, Kiss of Ra, etc.)
* B: "Yep" (indicating no Obedience)
A: "Nothing before range" (self-explanitory)
B: "Nothing before range"
A: "I don't maneuver"
B: "I don't maneuver"
A: "Strike: Form of Mist to continue at +1 stealth"
B: "Strike: some token strike announcement"
A: "Combat ends"
A: "Do you block?"
<continue>
> 2: Can a vampire voluntarily fizzle an action?
No.
> e.g. by bleeding with Govern the Unaligned, then playing Conditioning and
> being left with inadequate blood.
Ah, yes.
But you can't just "voluntarily" fizzle the action by declining to
pay - you have to be unable to pay the cost when the action resolves
(and you can't attempt an action unless you can pay the cost at the
time of the attempt).
> If so, I presume the acting minion is tapped.
Yes, he was tapped when the action was announced.
> Can I play the conditioning in response to an attempt to block? (i.e. to
> fizzle so as to avoid combat)
Yes, but it won't avoid combat.
The action never really "fizzles" until it tries to resolve (remains
unblocked) and finds the cost unable to be paid.
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