Clarification on Anarch Revolt and D action bleed.

Is Anarach Revolt cumulative? I no Army of Rats is not and Anarch Revolt has practically the same writing. This came up in a game. Secondly, and I believe I am wrong, however I remember that a D action bleed could go to any Methuselah. However I heard now, that this is only true if the card specifically states that you can.

"Walter Denny" <Walter...@hotmail.com> wrote: > Is Anarach Revolt cumulative? Yes. > I no Army of Rats is not and Anarch Revolt > has practically the same writing. This came up in a game. Army of Rats has different writing: "You may only burn 1 pool each turn with Army of Rats cards." > Secondly, and I believe I am wrong, however I remember that a > D action bleed could go to any Methuselah. However I heard now, > that this is only true if the card specifically states that you > can. See 6.1.1 and 6.1.6 of the rules -- LSJ (vte...@white-wolf.com) VTES Net.Rep for White Wolf, Inc. Links to revised rulebook, rulings, errata, and tournament rules: http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/ Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.

On Mon, 11 Dec 2000 08:11:51 GMT, "Walter Denny" <Walter...@hotmail.com> wrote: >Is Anarach Revolt cumulative? I no Army of Rats is not and Anarch Revolt >has practically the same writing. This came up in a game. Anarch is cumulative (last i checked), why the ruling is different from army of rats, i do not know. > >Secondly, and I believe I am wrong, however I remember that a D action bleed >could go to any Methuselah. However I heard now, that this is only true if >the card specifically states that you can. > > The D on the D action bleed cards is remonder text, not text overruling any rules.

In article <1ds0OkgTuJkYIO...@4ax.com>, Dorian <bond...@home.com> wrote: > On Mon, 11 Dec 2000 08:11:51 GMT, "Walter Denny" > <Walter...@hotmail.com> wrote: > > >Is Anarach Revolt cumulative? I no Army of Rats is not and Anarch Revolt > >has practically the same writing. This came up in a game. > > Anarch is cumulative (last i checked), why the ruling is different > from army of rats, i do not know. It's different from Army of Rats because the Rats were errataed to be non-cumulative early in the life of the game (November 1994). As (originally) written, Army of Rats was cumulative just like Anarch Revolt. But not any more. > >Secondly, and I believe I am wrong, however I remember that a D action bleed > >could go to any Methuselah. However I heard now, that this is only true if > >the card specifically states that you can. > > The D on the D action bleed cards is remonder text, not text > overruling any rules. Exactly right (as LSJ was indicating with the references to the Sabbat War rulebook). Josh not a rules authority but knows where to find the rulings (http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/rulings.html) [ quoted text not captured ]

Am I correct that this a change to the rules. That originally the D was put on there to indicate that the action could be directed anywhere. Just a sanity check, make sure I'm not going crazy. [ quoted text not captured ]

On Mon, 11 Dec 2000 16:27:11 GMT, "Walter Denny" <Walter...@hotmail.com> wrote: >Am I correct that this a change to the rules. That originally the D was put >on there to indicate that the action could be directed anywhere. Just a >sanity check, make sure I'm not going crazy. This is a change to a CHANGE to the rules, to be precise. ORIGINALLY the (D) was on the cards as reminder text, to indicate who could block. A previous Rules Team changed the meaning of (D) to indicate who could be targetted as well. The current Rules Team changed it back. So yes, at one point, (D) bleed cards could target anyone. This is no longer the case. -- Derek Jack-Booted Thug of Atlanta "Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge." - C. Darwin, 1871

"Walter Denny" <Walter...@hotmail.com> wrote: > Am I correct that this a change to the rules. That originally the D > was put on there to indicate that the action could be directed > anywhere. Just a sanity check, make sure I'm not going crazy. There used to be errata to the rules that said that a (D) symbol somehow extended the list of available targets (but only in the case of bleed actions - not, for example, for a action to burn the Army of Rats). But that errata has been discarded. [ quoted text not captured ]