[LSJ] Malkavian Time Auction

I searched the comments on this card but was not able to find an answer for the following problem : On the card is printed that bidding happens clockwise, starting with your prey. In the newsgroup I found several hints that "you" (as the one playing MTA) can not bid. But what happens if the first bid of your predator is done. Can your prey start to bid again or is bidding over ? johannes walch v:ekn germany

In message <bbkm1k$h8a$1...@stu1id2.ip.tesion.net>, Johannes Walch <johanne...@vekn.de> writes: >On the card is printed that bidding happens clockwise, starting with your >prey. Correct. >In the newsgroup I found several hints that "you" (as the one playing MTA) >can not bid. You can't. Only "other Methuselahs" can bid. (Card text.) >But what happens if the first bid of your predator is done. Can your prey >start to bid again or is bidding over ? No. Keep going clockwise (excluding yourself) until people are done bidding. If someone else wants to bid higher than the previous bidder, they can - though if there are two people wanting to bid the same amount, that's handled by the person who's closest, clockwise, getting the first opportunity, of course. -- James Coupe PGP Key: 0x5D623D5D Lucky that my breasts are small and humble, EBD690ECD7A1FB457CA2 So you don't confuse them with mountains. 13D7E668C3695D623D5D

James Coupe wrote: > In message <bbkm1k$h8a$1...@stu1id2.ip.tesion.net>, Johannes Walch > <johanne...@vekn.de> writes: >>On [Malkavian Time Auction] is printed that bidding happens clockwise, >>starting with your prey. > > Correct. > >>In the newsgroup I found several hints that "you" (as the one playing MTA) >>can not bid. > > You can't. Only "other Methuselahs" can bid. (Card text.) > >>But what happens if the first bid of your predator is done. Can your prey >>start to bid again or is bidding over ? > > No. Keep going clockwise (excluding yourself) until people are done > bidding. If someone else wants to bid higher than the previous bidder, > they can - though if there are two people wanting to bid the same > amount, that's handled by the person who's closest, clockwise, getting > the first opportunity, of course. Correct. -- LSJ (vte...@white-wolf.com) V:TES Net.Rep for White Wolf, Inc. Links to V:TES news, rules, cards, utilities, and tournament calendar: http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/

Another Malk Time Auction Q, slightly different angle... I remember chatting about the control of minion cards won through a Malk Time Auction. The person I was speaking with was of the opinion that though the 'winner' controlled the minion card, it stayed with the Methuselah Auctioning it. eg: Zeb has a dirty big Mk IV. You auction it. Someone bids and wins control. The Mk IV stays with Zeb. Yay. Is this a correct interpretation? Or does the contolling Methuselah get to assign the Mk IV to one of hir minions? What about cards that aren't on minions (Army of Rats, etc). Do they stay with the 'old' Methuselah or go to the 'new' (controlling) Meth? Spanks! ;) PS. A quick 'shout out' 2 tha Sid-ney krew present. Yo, bitches. Wot up? Rap w/ U l8a =;\

Jim Parker wrote: > Another Malk Time Auction Q, slightly different angle... > > I remember chatting about the control of minion cards won through a > Malk Time Auction. The person I was speaking with was of the opinion > that though the 'winner' controlled the minion card, it stayed with > the Methuselah Auctioning it. eg: > > Zeb has a dirty big Mk IV. You auction it. Someone bids and wins > control. The Mk IV stays with Zeb. Yay. > > Is this a correct interpretation? Only for non-Equipment, non-Retainer, non-Location minion cards. Changing control of Equipment, Retainers, or Locations on minions results in the card being moved to a minion controlled by the new controller. > Or does the contolling Methuselah > get to assign the Mk IV to one of hir minions? This, yes. > What about cards that aren't on minions (Army of Rats, etc). Do they > stay with the 'old' Methuselah or go to the 'new' (controlling) Meth? The controller is the controller. http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=3CECE90A.50095EEA%40white-wolf.com [ quoted text not captured ]

[ quoted text not captured ] You cannot auction the Mk II, you have to auction Zeb... A methuselah doesn't control the Mk II (equipment cards, actions to put on, cards played on the vampire/minion by it's controlling methuselah) the vampire controls it... The methuselah controls the vampire... Temptation, mind rape, haven uncovered, life boons, major boons, and other cards you play on other methuselah or his minions you can MTA... But ones played on you, you can't. -- Direct access to this group with http://web2news.com http://web2news.com/?rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad

LSJ wrote: > Jim Parker wrote: >> Another Malk Time Auction Q, slightly different angle... >> >> I remember chatting about the control of minion cards won through a >> Malk Time Auction. The person I was speaking with was of the opinion >> that though the 'winner' controlled the minion card, it stayed with >> the Methuselah Auctioning it. eg: >> >> Zeb has a dirty big Mk IV. You auction it. Someone bids and wins >> control. The Mk IV stays with Zeb. Yay. >> >> Is this a correct interpretation? > > Only for non-Equipment, non-Retainer, non-Location minion cards. > Changing control of Equipment, Retainers, or Locations on minions > results in the card being moved to a minion controlled by the new > controller. > >> Or does the contolling Methuselah >> get to assign the Mk IV to one of hir minions? > > This, yes. > >> What about cards that aren't on minions (Army of Rats, etc). Do they >> stay with the 'old' Methuselah or go to the 'new' >> (controlling) Meth? > > The controller is the controller. > http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=3CECE90A.50095EEA%40white-wolf.com Errr, I guess I was wrong... =/ [ quoted text not captured ]

Kulaid wrote: > Jim Parker wrote: >> Another Malk Time Auction Q, slightly different angle... >> >> I remember chatting about the control of minion cards won through a >> Malk Time Auction. The person I was speaking with was of the opinion >> that though the 'winner' controlled the minion card, it stayed with >> the Methuselah Auctioning it. eg: >> >> Zeb has a dirty big Mk IV. You auction it. Someone bids and wins > etc.. > > You cannot auction the Mk II, you have to auction Zeb... > A methuselah > doesn't control the Mk II (equipment cards, actions to put on, cards > played on the vampire/minion by it's controlling > methuselah) the vampire > controls it... The methuselah controls the vampire... > > Temptation, mind rape, haven uncovered, life boons, major boons, and > other cards you play on other methuselah or his minions > you can MTA... > But ones played on you, you can't. Void this, guess my intertation was wrong... =? This was what I was told... So this is what I said... hehe, now I know better. [ quoted text not captured ]

In message <3746...@web2news.com>, Kulaid <kulaid.news.invalid@web2new s.net> writes: >> A methuselah >> doesn't control the Mk II (equipment cards, actions to put on, cards >> played on the vampire/minion by it's controlling >> methuselah) the vampire >> controls it... The methuselah controls the vampire... > >Void this, guess my intertation was wrong... =? >This was what I was told... It may have been better to believe the rulebook. :) "By default, a minion card in play is controlled by the controller of the minion it is on. If a minion card is just in play and not on another controlled card, then it is, by default, controlled by the Methuselah who played it." [1.6.3] [ quoted text not captured ]