Chris wrote:
>
> I recently heard that the damage from superior Catatonic Fear
> is only applied if combat was at close range?
> Is this true?
Yes.
> If so, is damage from Riposte (and other(?) similar cards) only
> applied if at close? I'm kinda curious to hear the logic behind
> this if it is true.
Yes.
Logic: CF and Riposte are strikes whose damage is not 'R'.
A truth of any strike: non-ranged damage (damage without the 'R'
modifier) isn't applied if the strike was done at long range.
Real-World logic for Riposte: self-evident.
Real-World logic for CF: non-existent (since CF isn't of the real world)
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> > I recently heard that the damage from superior Catatonic Fear
> > is only applied if combat was at close range?
> > Is this true?
> Yes.
What?
> > If so, is damage from Riposte (and other(?) similar cards) only
> > applied if at close? I'm kinda curious to hear the logic behind
> > this if it is true.
> Yes.
> Logic: CF and Riposte are strikes whose damage is not 'R'.
> A truth of any strike: non-ranged damage (damage without the 'R'
> modifier) isn't applied if the strike was done at long range.
I don't understand this.
They are strikes (and all strikes are supposed to be resolved
during Strike Resolution), yet you cannot use Pulled Fangs with
sup Catatonic Fear? It makes no sense.
Using the above logic, the damage from inf Thoughts Betrayed,
sup Drawing out the Beast, sup Burst of Sunlight (after the 1st
round) are only usable at close.
And heck, if you extend that logic, let's take a look at sup
Catatonic Fear and the Zip Gun (both are strikes)
Zip Gun
Minion with this gun takes 1 damage during Strike Resolution,
but only once during combat
Catatonic Fear
(M) As above, but the opposing minion takes 1 damage during
Strike Resolution.
The damage from the Zip gun isn't applied only if at close.
Maybe I'm using the wrong logic, but things don't seem to be
consistant.
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Chris wrote:
>
> > > I recently heard that the damage from superior Catatonic Fear
> > > is only applied if combat was at close range?
> > > Is this true?
> > Yes.
>
> What?
Cataonic Fear only deals damage to the opposing minion when
the strike is done at close range.
> > > If so, is damage from Riposte (and other(?) similar cards) only
> > > applied if at close? I'm kinda curious to hear the logic behind
> > > this if it is true.
> > Yes.
> > Logic: CF and Riposte are strikes whose damage is not 'R'.
> > A truth of any strike: non-ranged damage (damage without the 'R'
> > modifier) isn't applied if the strike was done at long range.
>
> I don't understand this.
> They are strikes (and all strikes are supposed to be resolved
> during Strike Resolution), yet you cannot use Pulled Fangs with
> sup Catatonic Fear? It makes no sense.
CF has errata that the damage is applied after combat ends (since
Strike: Combat Ends ends combat before any damage can be done
in strike resolution).
PF is a combat card. It cannot be played after combat ends,
which is when damage from CF is applied. So you can't depend
on the damage dealt by CF to ensure that you deal more damage
at close range than your opponent does.
If you deal more damage than your opponent does, and then use
an additional strike to play CF, then you can play PF as combat
ends (before the CF damage is applied).
It makes perfect sense.
> Using the above logic, the damage from inf Thoughts Betrayed,
> sup Drawing out the Beast, sup Burst of Sunlight (after the 1st
> round) are only usable at close.
TB is not a strike.
DotB is not a strike.
BoS deals 'R' damage.
The "above logic" you are using explicitly exludes these cases.
> And heck, if you extend that logic, let's take a look at sup
> Catatonic Fear and the Zip Gun (both are strikes)
Zip Gun is equipment, not a strike. It has a side effect for
being used.
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