rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad

Most effective use of (new) Concealed Weapon

19 messages from 15 participants · 16 September 2002 – 18 September 2002
original thread on Google Groups

freakdrivr

anyway, what is the best weapon to equip / conceal and what are the best minions? best i can come up with is War Ghoul and Shambling hordes (shudder), both with Wooden Stakes... that or CEL (superior of course) weenies with .44's... Anyone? anyone? Bueller? jds

Jozxyqk

> what is the best weapon to equip / conceal and what are the best > minions? I'm partial to Muddled Vampire Hunters with concealed Garrottes... (Meat Hooks work nicely too)

Halcyan 2

>what is the best weapon to equip / conceal and what are the best >minions? So far, I've found CEL vampires (not necessarily weenies either) to be the minions who benefit most from the new Concealed Weapon. Halcyan 2

salem

Jozxyqk <jfeu...@eecs.tufts.edu> wrote in message news:<Feqh9.292954$kp.9...@rwcrnsc52.ops.asp.att.net>... [ quoted text not captured ] umm..isn't the meat hoook/press a bit redundant with a muddles? i mean, if the enemy doesn't go down in the first round, you're dead. (assuming you were at close). poker or brass knuckles with muddled....or...shock horror...stakes, of course (just like warghouls and shambles). muddles with a stake at first strike can put anyone on any blood in torpor with first strike. that's gotta be good. (barring all the stuff they might play to screw it up). wendell delburton with stakes is good too. +2 damage with them. which equals torpor. plus maneouvre, regenerate, built in rush, ranged damage in case they do out maneovre you.... but back to concealed weapons.... i was thinking of a weenie horde with concealed gas powered chainsaws, that strike blows in an unepectedly lucky manner. how about them salubri antitribu? they've got to be a bit more useful with the new concealed weapon, right? (and weighted walking stick) ok i'm babbling now.. salem.

Magnus

freak...@ponymail.com (freakdrivr) wrote in message news:<fc6a5b20.02091...@posting.google.com>... [ quoted text not captured ] I´d say Toreador with CEL, concealing Sniper Rifles and using Ammo cards and Blur. :) Magnus

Sten During

freakdrivr wrote: > anyway, > > what is the best weapon to equip / conceal and what are the best > minions? > > best i can come up with is War Ghoul and Shambling hordes (shudder), > both with Wooden Stakes... > Give Salubri antitribu a shot at concealing out Garrotte. Should be a decent setup for a good barbeque. Sten During

Daz

freak...@ponymail.com (freakdrivr) wrote in message news:<fc6a5b20.02091...@posting.google.com>... > anyway, > > what is the best weapon to equip / conceal and what are the best > minion !Salubris would get my vote.

Tobias

halc...@aol.com (Halcyan 2) wrote in message news:<20020916185235...@mb-cu.aol.com>... [ quoted text not captured ] Arms dealer / Stake (lucky blow) - right Mike? Tobias Deventer

berni...@attbi.comholdlespam

On 16 Sep 2002 23:36:27 -0700, salem_ch...@yahoo.com (salem) wrote: >Jozxyqk <jfeu...@eecs.tufts.edu> wrote in message news:<Feqh9.292954$kp.9...@rwcrnsc52.ops.asp.att.net>... >> > what is the best weapon to equip / conceal and what are the best >> > minions? <Snip> >how about them salubri antitribu? they've got to be a bit more useful >with the new concealed weapon, right? (and weighted walking stick) I actually played my new !Salubri deck this past weekend which makes use of aggravated Garrotes. Had great fun and managed to burn a few Assamites in the process :-) >ok i'm babbling now.. > >salem. BernieTime Lansing, Michigan

Mike Jansen

On 17 Sep 2002 01:11:38 -0700, tobiasop...@hotmail.com (Tobias) wrote: [ quoted text not captured ] Wonder what Leandro's final thoughts were, as the arms dealer plunged the stake into his heart? Perhaps he had some memories of his own mortality and thought: damn! Mike

Stelios

Magnus <magn...@gmx.de> escribió en el mensaje de noticias 70eabfe1.0209...@posting.google.com... [ quoted text not captured ] Well, I've built a nice CEL deck, with a few aus and pre cards. Mainly, 3-7 caps !tor and !bru, all of them with CEL. Lots of permanents(magnums, atonements, laptops, radios, etc) and 45 combat cards. It's a nasty deck, but mainly for your predator if your prey is a full-forward one. Sure, nose of the hound and aire of elations comes handy, but it's just Another Blocker One. I agree with most of the threat, now !salubri should have something to say,well, ermm, perhaps not that much, but what do yo expect from this aus/val guys? :)

Jozxyqk

salem <salem_ch...@yahoo.com> wrote: > Jozxyqk <jfeu...@eecs.tufts.edu> wrote in message news:<Feqh9.292954$kp.9...@rwcrnsc52.ops.asp.att.net>... >> > what is the best weapon to equip / conceal and what are the best >> > minions? >> >> I'm partial to Muddled Vampire Hunters with concealed Garrottes... >> (Meat Hooks work nicely too) > umm..isn't the meat hoook/press a bit redundant with a muddles? i > mean, if the enemy doesn't go down in the first round, you're dead. > (assuming you were at close). Well, I was using Meat Hook as the example of "Free Str+1 weapon". Poker's just as effective, and maybe even moreso if he can strike a Kiasyd for 5 agg at first strike. Plus, my Muddles and Wendell with Concealed Weapons deck (which still needs alot of work, I admit) has some protective measures like Flak Jackets, so that the Muddles might actually live through to a second round... Muddles can also play Weighted Walking stick instead of concealing anything, but it shatters the first time he strikes with it.

Ped Xing

Got a side-question here as I go through my cards in reference to all of this concealed weapon coolness. I got a box of the old Jyhad stuff a while back and while sorting through equipment cards, I am trying to figure out: what exactly is the difference between the old Jyhad "Stake" and "Wooden Stake?" Are they both legal for play now? Gracias, Matthew Scrivner Anarch of the Sonoran Desert

LSJ

Ped Xing wrote: > > Got a side-question here as I go through my cards in reference to all > of this concealed weapon coolness. I got a box of the old Jyhad stuff > a while back and while sorting through equipment cards, I am trying to > figure out: > > what exactly is the difference between the old Jyhad "Stake" and > "Wooden Stake?" Are they both legal for play now? They are officially two different printings of the same card. Both are legal for play, and, as with all cards, are played according to the most recent printing's card text. -- LSJ (vte...@white-wolf.com) V:TES Net.Rep for White Wolf, Inc. Links to V:TES news, rules, cards, utilities, and tournament calendar: http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/

Halcyan 2

>I´d say Toreador with CEL, concealing Sniper Rifles and using Ammo >cards and Blur. :) Just to make sure, you do know that you can only set range with Sniper Rifle if you have the Rifle when you block. (You can't block, Conceal/Disguise it out, and then use it to set range). See: From: James Coupe (ja...@zephyr.org.uk) Subject: Re: Sniper Rifle Q: Newsgroups: rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad View this article only Date: 2001-12-11 08:37:01 PST In message <9v5al0$d28pl$1...@ID-104455.news.dfncis.de>, Roger Carhult <rogc...@student.luth.se> writes: >I understand the current ruling has interpreted "if bearer blocks an action" >to require the bearer to have been bearer when blocking too, but I don't >understand why this ruling was interpreted like that. Because it uses the word "blocks" not "blocked". It requires the bearer to block an action. The minion was not the bearer when they blocked the action, in the situation of a Disguised Weapon style card. By being in the present tense, the effect triggers when the block actually occurs, but is used before range etc. -- James Coupe PGP 0x5D623D5D It's been a long road, getting from there to here EBD690ECD7A1FB457CA213D7E It's been a long time, and my time is finally near 668C3695D623D5D I will see my dream come alive at last, I will touch the sky And they're not gonna hold me down no more, no they're not gonna change my mind Verified (through lack of a correction) by LSJ later in that thread. Halcyan 2

Eddie

Sword of Judgement!!!!!

Jozxyqk

Eddie <940...@ucol.ac.nz> wrote: > Sword of Judgement!!!!! ...is unique, and therefore un-Concealable.

Cy H. Myers

How about a Hell Hound wielding a .44 mag, just for fun? Cy

Magnus

halc...@aol.com (Halcyan 2) wrote in message news:<20020917150806...@mb-fp.aol.com>... > Just to make sure, you do know that you can only set range with Sniper Rifle if > you have the Rifle when you block. (You can't block, Conceal/Disguise it out, > and then use it to set range). See: > > > From: James Coupe (ja...@zephyr.org.uk) > Subject: Re: Sniper Rifle Q: > Newsgroups: rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad > View this article only > Date: 2001-12-11 08:37:01 PST > > > In message <9v5al0$d28pl$1...@ID-104455.news.dfncis.de>, Roger Carhult > <rogc...@student.luth.se> writes: > >I understand the current ruling has interpreted "if bearer blocks an action" > >to require the bearer to have been bearer when blocking too, but I don't > >understand why this ruling was interpreted like that. > > Because it uses the word "blocks" not "blocked". > > It requires the bearer to block an action. The minion was not the > bearer when they blocked the action, in the situation of a Disguised > Weapon style card. > > > By being in the present tense, the effect triggers when the block > actually occurs, but is used before range etc. Yeah, sorry for that. :) Sometimes the semantics of V:TES are a bit too complicated for people like me, whose primary language isn´t English. :) Magnus