rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad

[LSJ] Slaughterhouse vs Political Seizure

3 messages from 3 participants · 25 August 2006
original thread on Google Groups

Morgan Vening

In a game last night, the following situation occured. I was playing a Harbinger deck, and had 5 Slaughterhouses in play. I had eliminated two players, and my last remaining opponent was playing Lasombra. He played a Political Seizure, targetting one of my Slaughterhouses, and we were unsure of how it interacted, due to the wording of Political Seizure. Political Seizure Type: Master Requires: Lasombra Cost: 2 pool Master. Choose a location controlled by another Methuselah. This card contests THAT location as though it were the same card, even if the other location is not unique. When the LAST COPY of that location is yielded, burn this card; the other card comes into play under your control untapped instead of being burned. The two emphasized sections were where we came unstuck. The first emphasis seems to indicate it's just the singular Slaughterhouse that's contested, and others are unaffected. The second emphasis confuses that issue. The three possible scenarios we could figure, were... a) 4 Slaughterhouses uncontested, 1 contested, 1 Lasombra contested, 1 pool per player to maintain contestation, failure on my part is the taking of the 5th Slaughterhouse. b) 5 Slaughterhouses contested, 1 Lasombra contested, 5 pool for me to maintain contestation, failure on my part is the taking of just the 5th Slaughterhouse (remaining burnt). c) 4 Slaughterhouses uncontested, 1 contested, 1 Lasombra contested, 1 pool per player to maintain contestation, failure on my part means a different Slaughterhouse is now contested (based on the "When the LAST COPY" part was considered). We played using a), but it was immaterial to the game, as I was incapable of dropping his hand below 7 for the Brinksmanship oust, and he was able to bleed me out regardless. I'm just curious how it should be if that situation arises again. Morgan Vening

Fred Scott

"Morgan Vening" <mor...@optusnet.com.au> wrote in message news:f40te2dbuf7e7hkkt...@4ax.com... > In a game last night, the following situation occured. > > I was playing a Harbinger deck, and had 5 Slaughterhouses in play. I > had eliminated two players, and my last remaining opponent was playing > Lasombra. > > He played a Political Seizure, targetting one of my Slaughterhouses, > and we were unsure of how it interacted, due to the wording of > Political Seizure. > > Political Seizure > Type: Master > Requires: Lasombra > Cost: 2 pool > Master. > Choose a location controlled by another Methuselah. This card contests > THAT location as though it were the same card, even if the other > location is not unique. When the LAST COPY of that location is > yielded, burn this card; the other card comes into play under your > control untapped instead of being burned. > > The two emphasized sections were where we came unstuck. The first > emphasis seems to indicate it's just the singular Slaughterhouse > that's contested, and others are unaffected. The second emphasis > confuses that issue. I don't see the problem. If contesting a unique card, a third copy could later get put into play by a third Methuselah. (Due to the way Political Seizure is worded, it couldn't target a unique location already contested since it would be out of play, hence not a "location controlled by another Methuselah".) Thus three or more copies of whatever is being contested - including the PS - could be in play at any time. If all the other copies are yielded (that is, after the "last copy of that location" is yielded), the Political Seizure is then burned and the last copy is taken from the owning Methuselah and controlled by the Methuselah who played Political Seizure. Now, if the location is not unique, no other copies will contest with the Political Seizure and its target, including new copies. So the "last copy" would then simply refer to the targeted card - assuming it's yielded first. > The three possible scenarios we could figure, > were... > > a) 4 Slaughterhouses uncontested, 1 contested, 1 Lasombra contested, 1 > pool per player to maintain contestation, failure on my part is the > taking of the 5th Slaughterhouse. This is what I think happens. Fred

LSJ

Fred Scott wrote: > "Morgan Vening" <mor...@optusnet.com.au> wrote in message > > He played a Political Seizure, targetting one of my Slaughterhouses, > > and we were unsure of how it interacted, due to the wording of > > Political Seizure. > > > > Political Seizure > > Choose a location controlled by another Methuselah. This card contests > > THAT location as though it were the same card, even if the other > > location is not unique. When the LAST COPY of that location is > > yielded, burn this card; the other card comes into play under your > > control untapped instead of being burned. > > > > The two emphasized sections were where we came unstuck. The first > > emphasis seems to indicate it's just the singular Slaughterhouse > > that's contested, and others are unaffected. The second emphasis > > confuses that issue. > > > a) 4 Slaughterhouses uncontested, 1 contested, 1 Lasombra contested, 1 > > pool per player to maintain contestation, failure on my part is the > > taking of the 5th Slaughterhouse. > > This is what I think happens. Correct. The other four Slaughterhouses are not copies of "that location" -- they are merely other locations with the same name.