rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad

Card idea

9 messages from 8 participants · 15 April 1997 – 28 April 1997
original thread on Google Groups

Michael Kelly

How does this sound for a new card Name: Payoff Assamite combat card Play this card at the end of combat between an Assamite and a vampire for which the Assamite vampire has a contract. If the Assamite has successfully inflicted damage during the combat the Assamite gains 1 blood. If the Assamite sends the vampire to topor gain 1 pool and 2 blood. If the Assamite burns the vampire gain 2 pool and 3 blood. Only one Payoff may be played per combat.

Martin Ward

Pretty good idea, but I always thought that if I get around to making an Assamite deck as a theme deck and I wanted to get paid (pool, equipment) by the other players to assassinate vampires for them, then the deck would have to contain the Succubus Club. It's the perfect card.

ni...@rci.rogers.com

[ quoted text not captured ] Assuming that the title of the card implies the employer of the assasin is the one providing the "payoff", I don't think a payoff would be warranted simply because the target was wounded in combat. In fact, if I had hired an assasin and he came back to me saying the he had wounded the target, I'd slap him across the head and ask him why the target wasn't dead yet. Assamites don't deserve rewards for half-done jobs; it's all or nothing. As for gaining 1 pool and 2 blood for sending the target to torpor, that's a excessive if the card is anything but rare. A single Taste of Death is usually all it takes to send an opposing minion to torpor and you're going to reward that simple task with a total of 3 blood? I say reduce it to no pool and 1 blood, if anything at all. Again, if I put out a contract on someone's head, I don't want him in a coma; I want him pushing up the daisies. Burning the target. Now we're talking. Definitely deserves a reward. But a reward totaling 5 blood? That's massive. I'd have to say 1 pool, and 2 blood would be more appropriate. Unless the card was rare.

Inovia Sil

I played this deck once, and believe me, it is fun. My worry was that no one would bid, but my prey and predator were too worried about the Assamites attacking, and giving them a target is a good way to get them out of your hair. Try it (it's almost like role-playing).

L. Scott Johnson

ni...@rci.rogers.com wrote: > >Name: Payoff > >Assamite combat card > >Play this card at the end of combat between an Assamite and > >a vampire for which the Assamite vampire has a contract. > >If the Assamite has successfully inflicted damage during the > >combat the Assamite gains 1 blood. If the Assamite sends the > >vampire to topor gain 1 pool and 2 blood. If the Assamite > >burns the vampire gain 2 pool and 3 blood. Only one Payoff > >may be played per combat. > > As for gaining 1 pool and 2 blood for sending the target to torpor, that's a > excessive if the card is anything but rare. Rarity has already been shown to be a poor excuse for balance. If it's unbalanced, it doesn't matter whether it's rare or free for the asking at Wal-Mart. Unbalanced is unbalanced. -- L. Scott Johnson (vte...@regency.wizards.com) Official VtES Net.Rep for Wizards of the Coast. (*) - Subject to review by Rules Team

James B. Floate

L. Scott Johnson wrote: > Rarity has already been shown to be a poor excuse for balance. > If it's unbalanced, it doesn't matter whether it's rare or free for > the asking at Wal-Mart. Unbalanced is unbalanced. Whats a Wal-Mart? James B.

Richard D. Zopf

[ quoted text not captured ] >L. Scott Johnson wrote: [ quoted text not captured ] >Whats a Wal-Mart? A hideous, twisted American "get stuff cheap" chain store with a recently developed tendancy to crop up in areas where they aren't wanted (they put one in Sturbridge Village, Massachusetts, USA...an historic village that recreates many Colonial traditions, and ruined much of the feel to the place with their eyesore of a building). Beware the Wal-Mart, lest it consume your soul!!!! Regards, R. David Zopf guenh...@mindspring.com "This argument reeks of Kant, or whiskey, or both...."

James B. Floate

Thanks Dave, > >Whats a Wal-Mart? > > A hideous, twisted American "get stuff cheap" chain store with a > recently developed tendancy to crop up in areas where they aren't > wanted (they put one in Sturbridge Village, Massachusetts, USA...an > historic village that recreates many Colonial traditions, and ruined > much of the feel to the place with their eyesore of a building). > Beware the Wal-Mart, lest it consume your soul!!!! > > Regards, > R. David Zopf > guenh...@mindspring.com > "This argument reeks of Kant, or whiskey, or both...." Ooh, Cornerstone of sweet Capitalism, a franchised sell-your-Grandmother store. Sounds cool. Probably attracts really weird people. We have a couple of 7-11's in Sydney now, and they have the most interesting demographics. Please do not export this latest idea. But we'll keep sending you Fosters! F for Foreigners :) (and other things we dont want like Kylie) Hijack the Newsgroup! James B. 'Why vote when you can riot?'

bra...@acsu.buffalo.edu

[ quoted text not captured ] Lovely Idea! Richard | Don't let yourself get in your own way. - Wicker |