Multiple First Traditions q LSJ?

A player has multiple First traditions in play at the same time. Each player must pay 2 pool or skip his turn. Is this per card(1st trad.) in play? I would say no, because they have the same effect which is not additive, but simply repetitive. But I'd like to hear from LSJ on this...would you pay 2 or 4 to take your turn? T

Tal...@nodamspamhotmail.com wrote in message news:<3cf5cbaa.118549921@news>... > A player has multiple First traditions in play at the same time. > Each player must pay 2 pool or skip his turn. Is this per card(1st > trad.) in play? This is per card. Each effect is unique and distinct. > I would say no, because they have the same effect which is not > additive, but simply repetitive. Each effect is unique and distinct. > But I'd like to hear from LSJ on this...would you pay 2 or 4 to take > your turn? 4 pool. LSJ [2000-07-21] http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=39783BB0.B8DF94DD%40white-wolf.com ----- It is cumulative. [RTR 22-DEC-1994]: 16) Is the First Tradition Cumulative? Yes, They would happen at the Same time. So if you paid two blood you would still have to skip a turn unless you paid another two. ----- Carpe noctem. Lasombra http://www.TheLasombra.com

> > But I'd like to hear from LSJ on this...would you pay 2 or 4 to take > > your turn? > > 4 pool. > > LSJ [2000-07-21] > http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=39783BB0.B8DF94DD%40white-wolf.com What about to /not/ take your turn? > ----- > It is cumulative. [RTR 22-DEC-1994]: > > 16) Is the First Tradition Cumulative? Yes, They would happen at the > Same time. So if you paid two blood you would still have to skip a > turn unless you paid another two. > ----- If I skipped my turn, would I have to skip my NEXT turn or pay two pool also? Or could I just [not take this turn] which is all either one asked?

"Brian" <firstco...@aol.com> wrote in message news:80bafd85.02053...@posting.google.com... > > > But I'd like to hear from LSJ on this...would you pay 2 or 4 to take > > > your turn? > > > > 4 pool. > > > If I skipped my turn, would I have to skip my NEXT turn or pay two > pool also? Or could I just [not take this turn] which is all either > one asked? > Each one requires that you either pay 2 pool or skip your *next* turn. Your next turn is the next one that you have coming. Just because you skip your next turn doesn't mean it doesn't exist, therefore skipping one turn is enough for any number of 1st Traditions. I do understand why there is a question, but one turn is enough for any number of 1st Traditions.

Brian wrote: > > > > But I'd like to hear from LSJ on this...would you pay 2 or 4 to take > > > your turn? > > > > 4 pool. > > > > LSJ [2000-07-21] > > http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=39783BB0.B8DF94DD%40white-wolf.com > > What about to /not/ take your turn? You can either pay no pool to either of them (and therefore be forced to skip your turn), or you could pay two pool to one of them and pay no pool to the other (and therefore be forced to skip your turn). > > > ----- > > It is cumulative. [RTR 22-DEC-1994]: > > > > 16) Is the First Tradition Cumulative? Yes, They would happen at the > > Same time. So if you paid two blood you would still have to skip a > > turn unless you paid another two. > > ----- > > If I skipped my turn, would I have to skip my NEXT turn or pay two > pool also? Or could I just [not take this turn] which is all either > one asked? The latter, since that is all either one asked. -- LSJ (vte...@white-wolf.com) V:TES Net.Rep for White Wolf, Inc. Links to V:TES news, rules, cards, utilities, and tournament calendar: http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/