rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad

ROETSHERCK?

3 messages from 3 participants · 09 January 1996 – 10 January 1996
original thread on Google Groups

L. Scott Johnson

PlaceYour...@postbox.acs.ohio-state.edu (Place Your Full Name Here) writes: >I May be a step bejind the times but the new ruling on roetshreck >completely reverses what the card seems to be tring to accomplish.... It's not a new ruling, but it does reverse the intention of the card (based on card text) as well as making a mockery of the nomenclature. The ruling has been in its present form since 12/22/94: ---- From: aa...@cats.ucsc.edu (Thomas R Wylie) Newsgroups: rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad Subject: Design Team Rulings: 12/22/94 Date: 23 Dec 1994 08:42:47 GMT Message-ID: <3de2i7$4...@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> Jyhad Rulings 12/22/94 2) Rotschreck: This card effects the vampire doing the damage. ---- And was referred to in the Nov. 1, 1994 ruling as requiring a vampire to be dealing agg. damage - that it could not be played if an ally was dealing. This ruling implies that Rotschreck was hosing the dealer at this point, as well. It was misprinted (printed the way it read) twice by the Duelist, acoording to Tom. This created a sense of a flip-flopping ruling, but the ruling was stable even though one of the main disemination methods was faulty. >The way the card is worded it would play...The minion taking agg. would go >to torpor tapped with the card on them. This could be used to save a >vampire from being burned from taking to much agg, for no cost this seems >to be pretty fair.....But the ruling now is that the minion using agg. goes >to torpor....for no cost to you or the minion this has to be one of the most >powerful cards in the game. No debate there. >If I understand this correctly I'll be adding a few sudden reversals to my >gangrell deck. Since Rotschreck is itself an out-of-turn master, your ability to sudden reversal it is quite limited - it will almost always be played on your turn. Combat effects from master cards are frequently placed under the out-of-turn classification. But the mis-rule on not playing such cards at "any time appropriate" (as the initial Jyhad rules stated) has given them the odd feeling of gaining power when you are not in control. -- L. Scott Johnson (sjoh...@math.sc.edu) | These opinions are mine and http://www.math.sc.edu/~sjohnson | are subject to card text. Graphics Specialist and V:tES Rulemonger. |

Place Your Full Name Here

I May be a step bejind the times but the new ruling on roetshreck completely reverses what the card seems to be tring to accomplish.... The way the card is worded it would play...The minion taking agg. would go to torpor tapped with the card on them. This could be used to save a vampire from being burned from taking to much agg, for no cost this seems to be pretty fair.....But the ruling now is that the minion using agg. goes to torpor....for no cost to you or the minion this has to be one of the most powerful cards in the game. If I understand this correctly I'll be adding a few sudden reversals to my gangrell deck.

Eric Pettersen

PlaceYour...@postbox.acs.ohio-state.edu (Place Your Full Name Here) wrote: [dismay at official Rotschreck ruling deleted] > > If I understand this correctly I'll be adding a few sudden reversals to my > gangrell deck. Unfortunately SRs won't help you. Rotschreck is an OOT master, which means it will be used on you during _your turn_, so you can't SR it. --- Eric Pettersen pe...@cgl.ucsf.edu (NeXTmail capable)