Eagle Sight (sup) says "This vampire may to attempt to block the action
of any minion." Does this take precedence over a Seduction? That is,
if my predator bleeds me with a Seduction on Aleph, can Aleph then play
Eagle Sight and attempt to block? How about a Blood Bond (which is
worded differently than Seduction)?
Gary S.
Gary Schwartz (schw...@math.uiuc.edu) wrote:
: Eagle Sight (sup) says "This vampire may to attempt to block the action
[ quoted text not captured ]
: Gary S.
If I'm correct, you can make the attempts at blocking these actions,
but the attempts will automatically fail due to other cards.
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Gary Schwartz <schw...@math.uiuc.edu> wrote:
>Eagle Sight (sup) says "This vampire may to attempt to block the action
>of any minion." Does this take precedence over a Seduction? That is,
>if my predator bleeds me with a Seduction on Aleph, can Aleph then play
>Eagle Sight and attempt to block? How about a Blood Bond (which is
>worded differently than Seduction)?
Normally, a D-action can only be blocked by the recipient, and an undirected
action can only be blocked by predator or prey. Eagle's Sight and Anneke
are only breaking this rule. They do not allow you to get around random
"you can't block" effects, such as Seduction, Day Operation, and so on.
Tom Wylie rec.games.trading-cards.* Network Representative for
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schw...@math.uiuc.edu (Gary Schwartz) writes:
>Eagle Sight (sup) says "This vampire may to attempt to block the action
>of any minion." Does this take precedence over a Seduction? That is,
>if my predator bleeds me with a Seduction on Aleph, can Aleph then play
>Eagle Sight and attempt to block? How about a Blood Bond (which is
>worded differently than Seduction)?
No. Eagle's sight only overcomes the restriction on which Methuselahs'
minions are allowed to block. It will not overcome any other restriction,
such as the ones you mention, nor Incriminating Video, Pentex Subversion,
Day Operation, Navar's anxiety, Horrific Countenance, etc.
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In article <4fm5ph$h...@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>, aa...@cats.ucsc.edu (Thomas R
Wylie) wrote:
:
: Normally, a D-action can only be blocked by the recipient, and an undirected: action can only be blocked by predator or prey. Eagle's Sight and Anneke
: are only breaking this rule. They do not allow you to get around random
: "you can't block" effects, such as Seduction, Day Operation, and so on.
:
:
: Tom Wylie rec.games.trading-cards.* Network Representative for
: aa...@cats.ucsc.edu Wizards of the Coast, Inc.
Well, I would have thought so, but looking back on the wording of the
cards, I see that there is a very big difference. Blood Bond, Day Op, and
Incriminating Videotape all specifically say the vampire may not block the
action. Seduction, however, says that the Vampire may not "attempt to
block the action". The vampire therefore still retains the ability to
block, and is just not allowed to attempt to block. Eagle's Sight grants
the attempt to block ability (as per rulings on why Day Op is still
unblockable). To be consistent, Eagle's Sight should really be allowed to
block a Seduction.
Now, don't get me wrong. I don't say I am happy about this discovery. I
use a Sexy Bleed deck as my main deck, with Seduction being a large part
of the plan. So while I might prefer Seduction to not be countered by
Eagle's Sight, it does seem to me that the wording of the cards should
allow it.
What do you think?
stephen beaulieu
hi...@mail.utexas.edu
Stephen Beaulieu <hi...@mail.utexas.edu> wrote:
>: Normally, a D-action can only be blocked by the recipient, and an undirected
>: action can only be blocked by predator or prey. Eagle's Sight and Anneke
>: are only breaking this rule. They do not allow you to get around random
>: "you can't block" effects, such as Seduction, Day Operation, and so on.>Well, I would have thought so, but looking back on the wording of the
>cards, I see that there is a very big difference. Blood Bond, Day Op, and
>Incriminating Videotape all specifically say the vampire may not block the
>action. Seduction, however, says that the Vampire may not "attempt to
>block the action". The vampire therefore still retains the ability to
>block, and is just not allowed to attempt to block. Eagle's Sight grants
>the attempt to block ability (as per rulings on why Day Op is still
>unblockable). To be consistent, Eagle's Sight should really be allowed to
>block a Seduction.
Actually, in VTES, Seduction is synched to the wording of the others.
And when a card says one minion can't be blocked by another, the second
minion can't even attempt to block the first, so Eagle's Sight won't help.
[ quoted text not captured ]
In article <4fs1cq$g...@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>, aa...@cats.ucsc.edu (Thomas R
Wylie) wrote:
[snip my stuff about Seduction wording]
:
: Actually, in VTES, Seduction is synched to the wording of the others.: And when a card says one minion can't be blocked by another, the second
: minion can't even attempt to block the first, so Eagle's Sight won't help.
:
:
: Tom Wylie rec.games.trading-cards.* Network Representative for
: aa...@cats.ucsc.edu Wizards of the Coast, Inc.
Well, that's what I get from owning Jyhad and not VtES. Cool. I can go
back to my Sexy Bleed decks without worrying (like I really was anyway)
about Eagle's Sight.
Thanks for following up.
stephen beaulieu
hi...@mail.utexas.edu