rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad

Questions about Major Boon and others [LSJ]

3 messages from 3 participants · 09 November 2001
original thread on Google Groups

pallando

1) Player A has played a major boon on player B. Player C bleeds Player A and burns a spying mission already on his vampires. PlayeR let B pay via the Major Boon. Is the +2 bonus from the spying mission included? 2) An action modifier or a reaction card is burned with direct intervention. Can the same action modiefier or reaction card be played again (by the same minion during the same action)? I'd say no because DI says burn the card as it is played and only one of the same action modifier / raction card can be played during an action by the same minion. 3) Madness Network is in play. More than one methuselah has Malkavians in play. Is there a special order in which the malkavians have to take their actions? Can Player A let a Malkavian he controls take an action during his own turn after Player B's Malkavian has taken an action? thanks for the help pallando

James Coupe

In message <9sf5ed$bum$1...@bird.wu-wien.ac.at>, pallando <pall...@gmx.at> writes: >1) Player A has played a major boon on player B. Player C bleeds Player A >and burns a spying mission already on his vampires. PlayeR let B pay via the >Major Boon. Is the +2 bonus from the spying mission included? Yes, the bleed was successful - just someone else pays. >2) An action modifier or a reaction card is burned with direct intervention. >Can the same action modiefier or reaction card be played again (by the same >minion during the same action)? No. You've played Lost in Crowds (to no effect), so you can't play another. However, with card like Bonding (that says you can't play other bleed modifiers afterwads), you can play other cards that they excluded - because that *text* was cancelled. >I'd say no because DI says burn the card as >it is played and only one of the same action modifier / raction card can be >played during an action by the same minion. Correct. >3) Madness Network is in play. More than one methuselah has Malkavians in >play. Is there a special order in which the malkavians have to take their >actions? Card text. "Put this card in play. After another Methuselah has finished all of his or her minion phase actions, any untapped Malkavian can take an action (go clockwise if two or more attempt to take actions)." ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >Can Player A let a Malkavian he controls take an action during his >own turn after Player B's Malkavian has taken an action? No. Player A has "finished all of his or her minion phase actions". We are still in the minion phase, so any action Player A's Malkavians would attempt to take would be "minion phase actions" - which they have already declared as all finished, by card text. -- James Coupe Everybody knows that "No" means "Yes" PGP Key: 0x5D623D5D Just like glasses come free on the NHS EBD690ECD7A1FB457CA2 But the more I look through them the more I see 13D7E668C3695D623D5D I'm becoming more like Alfie

LSJ

James Coupe wrote: > > In message <9sf5ed$bum$1...@bird.wu-wien.ac.at>, pallando <pall...@gmx.at> > writes: > >1) Player A has played a major boon on player B. Player C bleeds Player A > >and burns a spying mission already on his vampires. PlayeR let B pay via the > >Major Boon. Is the +2 bonus from the spying mission included? > > Yes, the bleed was successful - just someone else pays. Correct. > >2) An action modifier or a reaction card is burned with direct intervention. > >Can the same action modiefier or reaction card be played again (by the same > >minion during the same action)? > > No. > > You've played Lost in Crowds (to no effect), so you can't play another. > > However, with card like Bonding (that says you can't play other bleed > modifiers afterwads), you can play other cards that they excluded - > because that *text* was cancelled. Correct. > >I'd say no because DI says burn the card as > >it is played and only one of the same action modifier / raction card can be > >played during an action by the same minion. > > Correct. Correct. > >3) Madness Network is in play. More than one methuselah has Malkavians in > >play. Is there a special order in which the malkavians have to take their > >actions? > > Card text. > > "Put this card in play. After another Methuselah has finished all of his > or her minion phase actions, any untapped Malkavian can take an action > (go clockwise if two or more attempt to take actions)." > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Correct. > >Can Player A let a Malkavian he controls take an action during his > >own turn after Player B's Malkavian has taken an action? > > No. > > Player A has "finished all of his or her minion phase actions". We are > still in the minion phase, so any action Player A's Malkavians would > attempt to take would be "minion phase actions" - which they have > already declared as all finished, by card text. Correct. -- LSJ (vte...@white-wolf.com) V:TES Net.Rep for White Wolf, Inc. Links to revised rulebook, rulings, errata, and tournament rules: http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/