Catatonic Fear + Target Vitals or Disarm

Can a Target card such as Target Vitals be used with Catatonic Fear? Can Disarm? I was fairly certain thesee issues were answered long ago, but I cannot find the posts on here. Thanks, Robba Yaga CATATONIC FEAR Combat Presence Blood Cost: 1 Card Text: Inferior: Strike: combat ends. Superior: As above, and inflict 1 damage to the opposing minion once combat ends if the range is close. Clarifications and Rulings -The damage from Catatonic Fear is dealt by the striking vampire (so would be reduced to zero by Memories of Mortality). [LSJ 19990723] -The after-combat damage effect is lost if the end-combat effect is lost (due to a Telepathic Tracking, for example). [LSJ 20001127] -If combat continues (via Telepathic Tracking, for example), then Catatonic Fear's damage will "linger" until combat actually ends, just as the torporizing effect of Undead Persistence does. [RTR 20010710] TARGET VITALS Combat Card Text: Aim. Play when choosing a strike. If any damage from this strike is successfully inflicted on the opposing minion, he or she takes an additional 2 damage from this strike, and he or she cannot press this round. The opposing minion may discard two combat cards [COMBAT] to cancel this card. A minion may play only one aim each strike. DISARM Combat Potence Card Text: Only usable at the end of a round of combat in which this vampire successfully inflicted more damage at close range than the opposing vampire; not usable by a vampire going into torpor. Put this card on the opposing vampire and send that vampire into torpor. The vampire with this card has -1 strength; he or she may burn this card by burning 3 blood. A vampire can only have 1 Disarm As above, but the vampire with this card has -2 strength.

On Aug 31, 11:00 am, Robert Dudock wrote: > Can a Target card such as Target Vitals be used with Catatonic Fear? Yes. LSJ February 25, 2008 http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad/msg/09d081bcd90e231b > Can Disarm? No. LSJ July 23, 2001 http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad/msg/93b62e231a47eef0

Robert Dudock wrote: > Can a Target card such as Target Vitals be used with Catatonic Fear? Yes. http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad/msg/91e0585bd6855280 Google: "vitals catatonic author:LSJ group:rec.*.jyhad" (search all groups) > Can Disarm? I was fairly certain thesee issues were answered long ago, > but I cannot find the posts on here. No. http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad/msg/93b62e231a47eef0 Google: "disarm catatonic author:LSJ group:rec.*.jyhad" (search all groups) [ quoted text not captured ]

On Aug 31, 11:07 am, LSJ <vtes...@white-wolf.com> wrote: > Robert Dudock wrote: > > Can a Target card such as Target Vitals be used with Catatonic Fear? > > Yes.http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad/msg/91e0... > > Google: "vitals catatonic author:LSJ group:rec.*.jyhad" (search all groups) > > > Can Disarm? I was fairly certain thesee issues were answered long ago, > > but I cannot find the posts on here. > > No.http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad/msg/93b6... [ quoted text not captured ] > > As above, but the vampire with this card has -2 strength.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - Thank you for the quick response. Here is another scenerio: Vampire A hits Vampire B for more damage (at close range) in the initial strikes of combat, then Vampire A plays an additional strike which is a Strike: Combat Ends. Can Disarm be played then by Vampire A?

On Aug 31, 11:16 am, Robert Dudock wrote: > Vampire A hits Vampire B for more damage (at close range) in the > initial strikes of combat, then Vampire A plays an additional strike > which is a Strike: Combat Ends. Can Disarm be played then by Vampire A? Yes. See also: Enkidu + Pursuit + Form of Mist + Disarm..... LSJ October 30, 2006 http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad/msg/3207ab3787b65e7a

[ quoted text not captured ] > LSJ October 30, 2006http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad/msg/3207... Thanks again. Robb

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[ quoted text not captured ] also wanted this to be on the same thread: i couldn't find the link to this answer. can the damage inflicted by Catatonic Fear be prevented with combat cards? i thought the answer was that since the damage is inflicted outside of combat, no. please correct me if i'm wrong and post a link so this answer will also be in the same thread. thank you. -spore

On Mon, 31 Aug 2009 20:50:16 -0700 (PDT), SPORE wrote: >can the damage inflicted by Catatonic Fear be prevented with combat >cards? i thought the answer was that since the damage is inflicted >outside of combat, no. No. LSJ March 22, 1999 http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad/msg/ea7b149d48530dcd --------- > I would take this to mean that the damage from CF is not taken "in" combat, > but "after" combat. Correct, so it cannot be prevented (except by non-combat effects like Blood Tears). -- L. Scott Johnson (vtes...@wizards.com) VTES Net.Rep for Wizards of the Coast.

The Lasombra <TheLa...@hotmail.com> wrote: >On Mon, 31 Aug 2009 20:50:16 -0700 (PDT), SPORE wrote: > >>can the damage inflicted by Catatonic Fear be prevented with combat >>cards? i thought the answer was that since the damage is inflicted >>outside of combat, no. > >No. > >LSJ March 22, 1999 >http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad/msg/ea7b149d48530dcd > >--------- > >> I would take this to mean that the damage from CF is not taken "in" combat, >> but "after" combat. > >Correct, so it cannot be prevented (except by non-combat effects like >Blood Tears). A problematic link to post, because Blood Tears hasn't prevented damage outside combat for quite a few years. You can, however, prevent it with Leather Jacket (it's damage from a strike) or Surge counters (the damage is still during the action). -- James Coupe PGP Key: 0x5D623D5D YOU ARE IN ERROR. EBD690ECD7A1FB457CA2 NO-ONE IS SCREAMING. 13D7E668C3695D623D5D THANK YOU FOR YOUR COOPERATION.