[LSJ] Spirit Marionette, Propaganda and Blood Fury question

Hello, I have 3 issues needing clarification: 1) Do Spirit Marionette's effect of tapping your prey's minion is immediate, or there is needed a successful bleed? I assume it is you who chooses the minion to be tapped? 2) Similar question to the above one. Metuselah's being bled chooses the minion to be tapped, am I right? 3) If a vampire prevented all of Blood Fury's (or Blood Rage for that matter) damage, still any weapon he had attempted to strike does no damage? In other words, for this effect is it needed to do at least one damage, or just strike and hit?

Guru wrote: > > Hello, > > I have 3 issues needing clarification: > > 1) Do Spirit Marionette's effect of tapping your prey's minion is > immediate, or there is needed a successful bleed? I assume it is you > who chooses the minion to be tapped? As with all actions, the effect stated as the effect of the action is applied when the action is successful (resolves unblocked), not before. The Methuselah playing the card chooses the target(s), yes. > 2) Similar question to the above one. Metuselah's being bled chooses > the minion to be tapped, am I right? This is the same question, but negated. So the answer is the opposite. No. > 3) If a vampire prevented all of Blood Fury's (or Blood Rage for that > matter) damage, still any weapon he had attempted to strike does no > damage? In other words, for this effect is it needed to do at least > one damage, or just strike and hit? Damage prevention only prevents damage. It doesn't prevent other effects (from strikes or from other things). -- LSJ (vte...@white-wolf.com) V:TES Net.Rep for White Wolf, Inc. Links to V:TES news, rules, cards, utilities, and tournament calendar: http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/

"LSJ" <vte...@white-wolf.com> wrote in message news:3D6E09A4...@white-wolf.com... > Guru wrote: > > 2) Similar question to the above one. Metuselah's being bled chooses > > the minion to be tapped, am I right? > > This is the same question, but negated. So the answer is the opposite. > No. I think by numbering this (2), Guru meant to be asking about Propaganda here. And as Propaganda is written "the Methuselah you are bleeding taps one of his or her ready untapped minions {when the action resolves}", the Methuselah being bled is the one that chooses in this case, right? Josh propagata

Thanks for your help, I have another question rising up, > > 3) If a vampire prevented all of Blood Fury's (or Blood Rage for that > > matter) damage, still any weapon he had attempted to strike does no > > damage? In other words, for this effect is it needed to do at least > > one damage, or just strike and hit? > > Damage prevention only prevents damage. It doesn't prevent other effects > (from strikes or from other things). So, to be effective, Blood Fury should just *hit* the opposing vampire? Or even when dodged the card is effective. What if Meshenka strikes with Bonecraft, and opposing minion dodges? What happens? Regards, Guru.

> I think by numbering this (2), Guru meant to be asking about Propaganda > here. And as Propaganda is written "the Methuselah you are bleeding > taps one of his or her ready untapped minions {when the action > resolves}", the Methuselah being bled is the one that chooses in this > case, right? Yes, of course. Damnit ;) I forgot the new card text. Thanks. Regards, Guru

Guru wrote: :: Thanks for your help, I have another question rising up, :: :::: 3) If a vampire prevented all of Blood Fury's (or Blood Rage for :::: that matter) damage, still any weapon he had attempted to strike :::: does no damage? In other words, for this effect is it needed to :::: do at least one damage, or just strike and hit? ::: ::: Damage prevention only prevents damage. It doesn't prevent other ::: effects (from strikes or from other things). :: :: So, to be effective, Blood Fury should just *hit* the opposing :: vampire? Or even when dodged the card is effective. if you dodge you avoid all effects of the cards aimed at you. :: What if :: Meshenka strikes with Bonecraft, and opposing minion dodges? What :: happens? you dodged the strike, so the card is not put on you, so you don't have the infirmity caused by the card. just Imagine Withering beating dodges =D