rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad

LOTSA QUESTIONS

8 messages from 6 participants · 13 September 1997 – 17 September 1997
original thread on Google Groups

Chris Hoffman

If the controller of KRCG News Radio taps the card to give a vampire that she controls intercept, does KRCG get untapped if the block is not successful? I do not have access to the V:TES version of Soul Gem of Etrius (only Jyhad Back). What would happen to a Vampire that is drawn from your crypt that is the same age as the vampire that has the Soul Gem? Concerning the political action card Protect Thine Own, we are not sure if and when the vampire blood is burned to pay for the political action? Since the card is an action, I assume that it would be played if the action is not blocked but what if the action is not blocked but the vote is not successful? Would the blood still have to be paid? The acting Methuselah is blocked by her predator. Combat is established at close range. Kij Dansky (prey's vampire in combat) plays Blood Fury as her strike. Bear Paw plays Body of Sun at the basic level. During Damage Resolution, Bear Paw does not have the blood to pay for Blood Fury and is going to Torpor. Bear Paw plays Skin of Steel to avoid the Body of Sun damage. I think that would be allowed and would save Bear Paw from being burned. Is this correct? Dauntain Black Magician is Masked of 1000 Faces for Dauntain's ability to burn Tremere Antitribu. I understand this is not possible. Please confirm. If a Vampire with superior dominate plays a Conditioning at superior and pays 1 blood then a Vampire with basic dominate Mask of 1000 Faces it, does that action continue with the action modified Conditioning at superior? Can Stolen Blood be used to pay for damage in the same round? What if the Stolen Blood is in excess of the Vampire's Capacity?

James Hamblin

Chris Hoffman (chof...@mail.netshop.net) wrote: : If the controller of KRCG News Radio taps the card to give a vampire that : she controls intercept, does KRCG get untapped if the block is not : successful? No. You tapped the card to produce an effect, and the card will not untap until its controller's next untap phase. : I do not have access to the V:TES version of Soul Gem of Etrius (only Jyhad : Back). What would happen to a Vampire that is drawn from your crypt that : is the same age as the vampire that has the Soul Gem? I don't think the two versions are different. The Soul Gem effect is unsuccessful if the two ages match. : Concerning the political action card Protect Thine Own, we are not sure if : and when the vampire blood is burned to pay for the political action? : Since the card is an action, I assume that it would be played if the action : is not blocked but what if the action is not blocked but the vote is not : successful? Would the blood still have to be paid? There are two things going on here: an action, and if that action is successful, a vote. If the action in successful, you must pay any costs. It doesn't matter whether the vote is successful (i.e., passes); the vote itself is a result of the successful action. I don't have a Body of Sun in front of me, so I'll leave that question for someone else. : Dauntain Black Magician is Masked of 1000 Faces for Dauntain's ability to : burn Tremere : Antitribu. I understand this is not possible. Please confirm. I still don't understand M1KF myself. : Can Stolen Blood be used to pay for damage in the same round? What if the : Stolen Blood : is in excess of the Vampire's Capacity? The excess blood drains off before it can be used to heal damage. James -- James Hamblin ham...@math.wisc.edu

gertjan

LSJ (VtES Rep) wrote: > > Chris Hoffman wrote: > > > If a Vampire with superior dominate plays a Conditioning at superior and > > pays 1 blood then > > a Vampire with basic dominate Mask of 1000 Faces it, does that action > > continue with the > > action modified Conditioning at superior? > > Yes. But who Pays the blood? Gert-Jan van der Heijden ger...@engin.umich.edu temporary living in the USA 1910 hill st 48104-2644 ANN ARBOR. tel nr 001 (313) 769 5665 Dutch adress: bazaar 35 7552 KP hengelo tel nr +31 74 2918510

LSJ (VtES Rep)

Chris Hoffman wrote: > > If the controller of KRCG News Radio taps the card to give a vampire that > she controls intercept, does KRCG get untapped if the block is not > successful? No. The vampire she controls gained intercept. Nothing on card text indicates that the KRCG is to be untapped if the block fails. > I do not have access to the V:TES version of Soul Gem of Etrius (only Jyhad > Back). What would happen to a Vampire that is drawn from your crypt that > is the same age as the vampire that has the Soul Gem? Vampires the same age are treated as if they were younger by the Soul Gem. > Concerning the political action card Protect Thine Own, we are not sure if > and when the vampire blood is burned to pay for the political action? > Since the card is an action, I assume that it would be played if the action > is not blocked but what if the action is not blocked but the vote is not > successful? Would the blood still have to be paid? Yes. The blood is paid when the action resolves (before the vote). If it cannot be paid, then it fizzles and no voting occurs. The cost is not retrieved if the vote fails. > The acting Methuselah is blocked by her predator. Combat is established at > close range. > Kij Dansky (prey's vampire in combat) plays Blood Fury as her strike. Bear > Paw plays Body > of Sun at the basic level. During Damage Resolution, Bear Paw does not > have the blood to > pay for Blood Fury and is going to Torpor. Bear Paw plays Skin of Steel to > avoid the Body > of Sun damage. I think that would be allowed and would save Bear Paw from > being burned. > Is this correct? No. Skin of Steel only prevents damage inflicted by the strike of the opposing minion. "damage from a strike" does not include side-effect damage (like that of Body of Sun or Zip Gun, etc.) > Dauntain Black Magician is Masked of 1000 Faces for Dauntain's ability to > burn Tremere > Antitribu. I understand this is not possible. Please confirm. Confirmed. Mask cannot be used on a special-ability-action. > If a Vampire with superior dominate plays a Conditioning at superior and > pays 1 blood then > a Vampire with basic dominate Mask of 1000 Faces it, does that action > continue with the > action modified Conditioning at superior? Yes. > Can Stolen Blood be used to pay for damage in the same round? Yes. > What if the > Stolen Blood > is in excess of the Vampire's Capacity? Then it drains off (down to the vampire's capacity) before any blood can be burned to heal damage. Blood beyond capacity always drains off immediately. -- L. Scott Johnson (vte...@regency.wizards.com) Official VtES Net.Rep for Wizards of the Coast. (*) - Subject to review by Rules Team

Justin Fang

In article <5vopbr$1...@news.wizards.com>, LSJ (VtES Rep) <vte...@wizards.com> wrote: >Chris Hoffman wrote: >> I do not have access to the V:TES version of Soul Gem of Etrius (only Jyhad >> Back). What would happen to a Vampire that is drawn from your crypt that >> is the same age as the vampire that has the Soul Gem? >Vampires the same age are treated as if they were younger by the >Soul Gem. ! Do you mean that the vampire from your crypt is treated as if it were younger, or the vampire being burned is treated as if it were younger? The first would be a drastic change from the previous ruling... -- Justin Fang (jus...@ugcs.caltech.edu) This space intentionally left blank.

LSJ (VtES Rep)

gertjan wrote: > LSJ (VtES Rep) wrote: > > Chris Hoffman wrote: > > > If a Vampire with superior dominate plays a Conditioning at superior and > > > pays 1 blood then > > > a Vampire with basic dominate Mask of 1000 Faces it, does that action > > > continue with the > > > action modified Conditioning at superior? > > > > Yes. > > But who Pays the blood? The vampire who played it (action modifiers and reaction cards' costs are always paid for immediately as the card is played -- only the cost of the action itself is delayed until the action resolves). [ quoted text not captured ]

LSJ (VtES Rep)

Justin Fang wrote: > LSJ (VtES Rep) <vte...@wizards.com> wrote: > >Vampires the same age are treated as if they were younger by the > >Soul Gem. > > ! Do you mean that the vampire from your crypt is treated as if it were > younger, or the vampire being burned is treated as if it were younger? The > first would be a drastic change from the previous ruling... Sorry. Brain lapse on my part. I meant older. Soul Gem treats a vampire of the same age the same as an *older* vampire - that is, the new (same-aged) vampire is placed in your uncontrolled area and the Gem is burned, just as an *older* vampire would be. A thousand apologies for the (ludicrous, daft, extreme, etc.) error. And thanks for the attempted cover imbedded in your question, unfortunately, reality is worse than that simple ambiguity :-) [ quoted text not captured ]

Joshua Duffin

LSJ (VtES Rep) (vte...@wizards.com) wrote: : No. Skin of Steel only prevents damage inflicted by the strike of the : opposing minion. "damage from a strike" does not include side-effect : damage (like that of Body of Sun or Zip Gun, etc.) I may have asked this before, but if so I've forgotten the answer and it's not listed on the Rulesmonger page mirror as far as I can see. Can Skin of Steel (inferior) be used to prevent the damage you're inflicting on yourself with a Burst of Sunlight? (strike: 1R/2R, aggravated, to all vampires in combat) Relatedly, will Flesh of Marble reduce all damage from *all* sources (including, for example, environmental effects such as Weather Control or Blood of Acid) to 1 point at superior? If so, how does that work with effects that produce damage at times other than strike resolution - does Flesh force all the damage to wait till the end of the round and then get reduced, or is it perhaps reduced to 1 point each time the vampire takes damage? Thanks, Josh clueless in ithaca