Torpor Rescue/kiss of ra Qstn[LSJ]

harm...@futures.wharton.upenn.edu (ALEX HARMON) writes: >Vamp A is in torpor with 5 life and attempts to rescue itself. >Vamp B blocks with the necessary intercept. >Q: Can Vamp A play Kiss of Ra (granted it has sup For and Vamp B doesnt >have For)? Yes. >Is it a question of whether or not Vamp B decides to diablerize Vamp A in >which case Vamp A gets the option of playing Kiss of Ra since it was >indeed blocked but wasnt diablerized? Or could it be that Vamp A can be >diablerized while at the same time sending Vamp B to torpor via Kiss of Ra? The latter. The former alternative is unworkable because it relies on giving the blocker the first option to do something. The only other alternative would be to disallow Vamp B's diablerie option if Vamp A plays Kiss of Ra, but card text doesn't support this line of reasoning, although I think it is closer to the WoD. But, since this is just a card game... -- L. Scott Johnson (sjoh...@math.sc.edu) | Voyager: http://www.math.sc.edu/cgi-bin/sjohnson/home | To boldly get lost where no Graphics Specialist and V:tES Rulemonger. | one has been lost before!

Hello just a quick question here- Vamp A is in torpor with 5 life and attempts to rescue itself. Vamp B blocks with the necessary intercept. Q: Can Vamp A play Kiss of Ra (granted it has sup For and Vamp B doesnt have For)? Is it a question of whether or not Vamp B decides to diablerize Vamp A in which case Vamp A gets the option of playing Kiss of Ra since it was indeed blocked but wasnt diablerized? Or could it be that Vamp A can be diablerized while at the same time sending Vamp B to torpor via Kiss of Ra? Thanks in advance... Alex

[ quoted text not captured ] Sure, Kiss of Ra is a valid option. B would end up in topor after blocking the action. Of course he could diablarize vampire A before he goes to topor since B goes to topor after the block is successful. At least that is my opinion.

[ quoted text not captured ] Is this right that you can use kiss of ra?I mean, kiss of ra state "before combat begin", but when you block a vampires in torpor you don't enter in combat ... you have 2 choices 1- diablarizing 2-leave it in torpor !