"Non-Camarilla" vs Independent vs Sabbat

Are there any cards which only affect (or require) "Non-Camarilla" vampires, which also mean "Non-Sabbat"? It seems that alot of cards were intended to only affect the Independents, but they didn't have a word for it yet. I was wondering if there was any errata to that effect, or if I am to assume that all cards which say "Requires a Non-Camarilla Vampire" can require a Sabbat vamp as well. Thanks.

Jozxyqk <jfeu...@eecs.tufts.edu> writes: > Are there any cards which only affect (or require) > "Non-Camarilla" vampires, which also mean "Non-Sabbat"? No. Non-Camarilla means "Not a member of the Camarilla" i.e. independent or Sabbat. There are no cards which require *only* independent vampires. (And are not, say, Setite only or whatever.) > It seems that alot of cards were intended to only > affect the Independents, but they didn't have a word for > it yet. True. However, this was known when the Sabbat was designed and released, and it's not been a major problem. > I was wondering if there was any errata to that > effect, or if I am to assume that all cards which say > "Requires a Non-Camarilla Vampire" can require a Sabbat > vamp as well. You are. However, it is theoretically possible that Final Nights will contain "Requires an Independent vampire" type cards. -- James Coupe | PGP Key 0x5D623D5D "A bit of urine here and there, perhaps. It adds charm and character." - Mark Carroll, ucam.chat "Did you have weasel lock?" - Derek Ray, rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad

Jozxyqk <jfeu...@eecs.tufts.edu> wrote: > Are there any cards which only affect (or require) > "Non-Camarilla" vampires, which also mean "Non-Sabbat"? > It seems that alot of cards were intended to only > affect the Independents, but they didn't have a word for > it yet. I was wondering if there was any errata to that > effect, or if I am to assume that all cards which say No errata to that effect. > "Requires a Non-Camarilla Vampire" can require a Sabbat > vamp as well. It doesn't require a Sabbat vampire, but a Sabbat vampire would meet the "Non-Camarilla" requirement. Any card that means "Non-Camarilla and Non-Sabbat" would say "Independent" instead. -- LSJ (vte...@white-wolf.com) VTES Net.Rep for White Wolf, Inc. Links to revised rulebook, rulings, errata, and tournament rules: http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/ Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/