rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad

The Grandest Song: LSJ?

2 messages from 2 participants · 28 August 2006
original thread on Google Groups

Joshua Duffin

When a Kiasyd (say, Omme Enberbenight) bleeds while Song of Pan is in play, does he get to keep the +1 bleed after playing The Grandest Trick? It came up in a draft game the other day and we thought the +bleed would not stick while Omme was acting as a mortal ally. When Omme's bleed of 1 (default for an unspecified mortal ally, right?) is then reduced to 0 by an opposing Folderol, does Omme take the discard-phase damage for not having successfully bled? We thought so, since Omme has returned to being a Kiasyd at that time, and did not successfully bleed this turn. Text of Song of Pan: "+1 stealth action. Unique. Untap this acting Kiasyd and put this card in play. All Kiasyd and changeling allies get +1 bleed. During your discard phase, burn this card and inflict 1 unpreventable damage on each Kiasyd or changeling ally you control who did not successfully bleed this turn." Text of Grandest Trick: "Only usable when an action is announced. Vampires cannot block this action. This acting vampire is treated as a mortal ally for the duration of the action (cannot spend or burn blood, cannot use Disciplines, will burn if reduced to 0 life, etc.). This vampire's blood represents his or her life while he or she is an ally. Only usable on an action that doesn't cost blood or require a vampire, clan or Discipline." thanks! Josh poor enber-benighted omme

LSJ

Joshua Duffin wrote: > When a Kiasyd (say, Omme Enberbenight) bleeds while Song of Pan is in play, > does he get to keep the +1 bleed after playing The Grandest Trick? No. http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad/msg/e89b7c4b3d30ed0b > It came > up in a draft game the other day and we thought the +bleed would not stick > while Omme was acting as a mortal ally. When Omme's bleed of 1 (default for > an unspecified mortal ally, right?) is then reduced to 0 by an opposing > Folderol, does Omme take the discard-phase damage for not having > successfully bled? We thought so, since Omme has returned to being a Kiasyd > at that time, and did not successfully bleed this turn. A bleed of zero is indeed not successful, correct.