LSJ- The Jones versus Flash Grenade

So my Nakhthorheb is in combat with the imbued, Travis. Travis conceals out a Flash Grenade and strike S:CE with it. Nakhthorheb plays the Jones at superior to cancel the strike. Does the Flash Grenade burn with no effect, or does it stay? If it stays, then can Travis just choose to strike with the same Flash Grenade again? Comments Welcome, Norman S. Brown, Jr XZealot Archon of the Swamp

XZealot wrote: > So my Nakhthorheb is in combat with the imbued, Travis. Travis > conceals out a Flash Grenade and strike S:CE with it. Nakhthorheb > plays the Jones at superior to cancel the strike. Does the Flash > Grenade burn with no effect, or does it stay? If it stays, then can > Travis just choose to strike with the same Flash Grenade again? It stays, and it can be chosen again.

[ quoted text not captured ] Does the same go for a gun and Dragon Breath rounds? [ quoted text not captured ]

XZealot wrote: > On Oct 22, 7:12 pm, LSJ <vtes...@white-wolf.com> wrote: >> XZealot wrote: >>> So my Nakhthorheb is in combat with the imbued, Travis. Travis >>> conceals out a Flash Grenade and strike S:CE with it. Nakhthorheb >>> plays the Jones at superior to cancel the strike. Does the Flash >>> Grenade burn with no effect, or does it stay? If it stays, then can >>> Travis just choose to strike with the same Flash Grenade again? >> It stays, and it can be chosen again. > > Does the same go for a gun and Dragon Breath rounds? It would, except Jones is played as the strike card is played. So it can be used on in-play strikes, so scratch my answer above -- the set-up is not legal: can't use The Jones against a Flash Grenade (nor a .44).

[ quoted text not captured ] So could you use the Jones when a Thrown Gate or Aid From Bats is played for a manuever? [ quoted text not captured ]

> > So could you use the Jones when a Thrown Gate or Aid From Bats is > played for a manuever? > Sure, cancels as it is played (card text). Doesn´t matter when the strike card is played. Simillar, the Jones would not work against Shroud of abscense (superior), which is not a strike card, just a way to get a strike (just like flash grenade). Jones, The Type: Combat Requires: Serpentis Only usable in combat with an ally or younger vampire. [ser] Strike: dodge, with an optional press, only usable to end combat. [SER] Cancel the opposing minion's strike card as it is played. (No cost is paid, and the minion chooses another strike). A vampire may play only one The Jones at superior each round.

agzocgud wrote: >> So could you use the Jones when a Thrown Gate or Aid From Bats is >> played for a manuever? >> > > Sure, cancels as it is played (card text). Doesn´t matter when the > strike card is played. Simillar, the Jones would not work against Correct. Google: "jones strike maneuver author:LSJ" or "jones gate author:LSJ" > Shroud of abscense (superior), which is not a strike card, just a way > to get a strike (just like flash grenade). Correct.

[ quoted text not captured ] Just play "The Jones" at inferior. The Flash Grenade has no effect and is burned ;-) Silly Norm trying to make things more complex than they need to be! Vegas gNat

tigernat1 wrote: > On Oct 22, 5:06 pm, XZealot <xzea...@cox.net> wrote: >> So my Nakhthorheb is in combat with the imbued, Travis. Travis >> conceals out a Flash Grenade and strike S:CE with it. Nakhthorheb >> plays the Jones at superior to cancel the strike. Does the Flash >> Grenade burn with no effect, or does it stay? If it stays, then can >> Travis just choose to strike with the same Flash Grenade again? >> >> Comments Welcome, >> Norman S. Brown, Jr >> XZealot >> Archon of the Swamp > > Just play "The Jones" at inferior. The Flash Grenade has no effect > and is burned ;-) well, except for the bit where combat ends....which I think sort of works against the desire to beat the snot out of Travis. > Silly Norm trying to make things more complex than they need to be! He thinks outside the box. Thinking is good! Even if you get it wrong sometimes, at least you learn! -- salem (replace 'hotmail' with 'yahoo' to email)