rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad

2 questions

3 messages from 1 participant · 07 June 1999 – 09 June 1999
original thread on Google Groups

LSJ

On VTES-L, Robert Souder: > Question 1. > Can you use the Heidelberg Castle to transfer blood and > equipment between playing an action and Hidden lurker. > For instance I block an action with a minion that has a > .44 magnum then after that combat is over I use the HC > to move the gun to another minion and then play hidden > lurker to shoot the vampire again. Is this ok? No. Hidden Lurker cannot be used during an action (errata). > Question 2. > Between 2 vampires vamp A has a bomb and if full at 2 > capacity vamp B is full at 4 capacity. Vamp A is blocked > by Vamp B, vamp A uses the bomb, vamp B plays a theft of > vitae. What happens next. Is the bomb damage resolved > first negating the theft or does the theft happen first? The theft moves the blood at the same time that the damage is allocated (but before any damage is healed). So vamp A has zero blood and 5 damage to worry about, and vamp B has 4 blood (the two he stole are in excess of his capacity, so they drain off immediately) and 5 damage to woory about. > If the theft happens then what happens to the blood. Is > it removed because vamp B is at full capacity or is it > used to heal some of the damage form the bomb leaving > vamp B with 1 blood? Both are left in torpor with zero blood, since neither had 5 blood to heal the damage with (which would always be the case for vampires of capacity less than five). -- LSJ (vte...@wizards.com) VTES Net.Rep for Wizards of the Coast. Links to revised rulebook, rulings, errata, and DCI (tournament) rules: http://www.wizards.com/VTES/VTES_Rules.html Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Share what you know. Learn what you don't.

LSJ

vte...@wizards.com (LSJ) wrote: > On VTES-L, Robert Souder: > > Question 1. > > Can you use the Heidelberg Castle to transfer blood and > > equipment between playing an action and Hidden lurker. > > For instance I block an action with a minion that has a > > .44 magnum then after that combat is over I use the HC > > to move the gun to another minion and then play hidden > > lurker to shoot the vampire again. Is this ok? > > No. Hidden Lurker cannot be used during an action (errata). Blech. Scratch that. *Heidelberg Castle* cannot be used during an action. Hidden Lurker, of course, can be used during an action (and actually, can only be used during an action), since it is an action modifier. Sorry for the foul up. [ quoted text not captured ]

LSJ

On VTES-L, Robert Souder wrote: > "LSJ" <vte...@WIZARDS.COM> wrote: > >> Question 2. > >> Between 2 vampires vamp A has a bomb and if full at 2 > >> capacity vamp B is full at 4 capacity. Vamp A is blocked > >> by Vamp B, vamp A uses the bomb, vamp B plays a theft of > >> vitae. What happens next. Is the bomb damage resolved > >> first negating the theft or does the theft happen first? > > > >The theft moves the blood at the same time that the damage > >is allocated (but before any damage is healed). So vamp A > >has zero blood and 5 damage to worry about, and vamp B has > >4 blood (the two he stole are in excess of his capacity, so > >they drain off immediately) and 5 damage to woory about. > > If the theft moves the blood at the same time as the bomb why > does the theft happen first leaving no blood to deal with the > bomb damage. Still a little unclear about timing on this one. The theft moves the blood at the same time damage is *allocated*. Both of these things happen before any damage is prevented or healed or otherwise handled. Step 1: apply the effects of the (simultaneous) strikes simultaneously. After the theft and allocation of damage, Vamp A is left with zero blood and has 5 damage to worry about. Vamp B has 6 blood, which is more than his capacity so the excess drain off leaving him with 4 blood, and has 5 damage to worry about. Step 2: Handle (prevented/heal/etc.) damage. Vamp A has no blood to heal any of the 5 points of damage he received, so he goes to torpor. Vamp B burns 4 blood to heal 4 points of damage, but cannot heal the fifth, so he goes to torpor (empty). [ quoted text not captured ]