The slow withering and allies

Hey, Slow Withering, The Type: Event Gehenna. Do not replace until a vampire commits diablerie. Requires at least one other Gehenna card in play. Cards that require any superior Disciplines cost an additional blood to play. Any vampire who commits diablerie is immune to this effect until the next Gehenna card is played if the slow withering is in play and my rock cat plays immortal grapple, does the rock cat pay 1 or 0 Life to play immortal? thanks, jds

"freakdrivr" <freak...@gmail.com> wrote in message news:5b657965.04092...@posting.google.com... [ quoted text not captured ] 0. Immortal Grapple (inferior) costs 0 when played by Rock Cat or any other minion.

"LSJ" <vte...@white-wolf.com> wrote in message news:2rb6erF...@uni-berlin.de... [ quoted text not captured ] Beware the ally who can play superior disciplines! It seems like such an ally would pay the increased cost in life. Is that correct? Dorrinal Blackmantle Chronicler of Clan Outcast Mage

Dorrinal Blackmantle wrote: > "LSJ" <vte...@white-wolf.com> wrote in message >>"freakdrivr" <freak...@gmail.com> wrote in message >>>if the slow withering is in play and my rock cat plays immortal >>>grapple, does the rock cat pay 1 or 0 Life to play immortal? >> >>Immortal Grapple (inferior) costs 0 when played by Rock Cat or any >>other minion. >> > Beware the ally who can play superior disciplines! It seems like such an > ally would pay the increased cost in life. Is that correct? Yes (hypothetically, of course). -- LSJ (vte...@white-wolf.com) V:TES Net.Rep for White Wolf, Inc. Links to V:TES news, rules, cards, utilities, and tournament calendar: http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/

"LSJ" <vte...@white-wolf.com> wrote in message news:<2rb6erF...@uni-berlin.de>... [ quoted text not captured ] Interesting - i read that card as applying to discipline cards that have a superior version of a discipline on the card and not whether a minion is playing it inferior or superior. ie. anarch 3-ways are not affected.

"freakdrivr" <freak...@gmail.com> wrote in message news:5b657965.04092...@posting.google.com... > "LSJ" <vte...@white-wolf.com> wrote in message news:<2rb6erF...@uni-berlin.de>... > > Immortal Grapple (inferior) costs 0 when played by Rock Cat or any > > other minion. > > Interesting - i read that card as applying to discipline cards that > have a superior version of a discipline on the card and not whether a > minion is playing it inferior or superior. ie. anarch 3-ways are not > affected. A card played required whatever it required to be played. If you play inferior Immortal Grapple, then it requires inferior Potence (that is, you don't need superior Potence to play Immortal Grapple at inferior - the superior Discipline is not required). Similarly, Ashes to Ashes can be used to prevent the damage from Blood Rage when played at [thn], since that play doesn't require Fortitude. -- LSJ (vte...@white-wolf.com) V:TES Net.Rep for White Wolf, Inc. V:TES homepage: http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/ Though effective, appear to be ineffective -- Sun Tzu

> > A card played required whatever it required to be played. > > If you play inferior Immortal Grapple, then it requires inferior Potence > (that is, you don't need superior Potence to play Immortal Grapple at > inferior - the superior Discipline is not required). > > Similarly, Ashes to Ashes can be used to prevent the damage from Blood Rage > when played at [thn], since that play doesn't require Fortitude. thanks - thats crystal clear! jds