I kno this has been greatly discussed over the last few years, but i
need an "official" clarification as the discussions are a bit
fragmented.
I need to kno exactly how cards may be played using Mata Hari's text.
Obviously she can meet any clan or sect requirement (excluding anarch)
when she plays a card. However, how does the text apply for cards
stating things like "... This blah blah gets +1 blah ..."?
I'm under the impression that the played card "sees" MH as the
appropriate clan/sect for the *duration of the action* and then she
reverts to being indep Rav.
Hence MH should be able to play Bloodstorm of Chorazin, Ritual
Challenge or Raking Talons to full effect. MH could also play Ahrimane
Protectorate, burn 1 blood to untap and burn it to cause a D action
against a location to fail, but would not be able to burn it to gain
the +1 intercept (or rather could burn it, but noone gains the +1).
Could the answer please be also posted on the WW site as an official
clarifcation? (apologies if it already is and i'm too blind to find
it) - i'm fairly sure i've checked for this several times over the
last few years.
Thanks!
(and for the melbourne players reading this, i dont think im ready to
build an intercepting aggro MH deck just yet ...mmm, tho maybe there
is some potential there ... ;-P )
Mata Hari
Ravnos
Capacity: 7
Group: 4
Independent. Red List: Mata Hari has 2 votes (titled). You and she may
play cards that require a sect and/or clan as if she were of that
required sect and/or clan.
Bloodstorm of Chorazin
Reaction
Baali
Only usable when a Baali successfully blocks an ally or a younger
vampire.
Tap this Baali and end the action (with no combat). This Baali
inflicts 1 unpreventable damage on the acting minion and each of his
or her retainers.
Ritual Challenge
Action
Gangrel
+1 stealth action.
If this action succeeds, put this card on the acting Gangrel. This
vampire gets +1 strength. A vampire may have only one Ritual Challenge
card.
Raking Talons
Combat
Gargoyle
Only usable before range is determined.
For the remainder of combat, damage from this Gargoyle's hand strikes
is aggravated. A vampire may play only one Raking Talons each combat.
Ahrimane Protectorate
Action
Ahrimane
+1 stealth action. Unique.
Put this card in play, and this Ahrimane may burn 1 blood to untap at
the end of this action. You may burn this card to cause a (D) action
directed at an ally or location you control to fail. You may burn this
card during a (D) action against you to give an Ahrimane you control
+1 intercept.
On Jan 7, 2:51 am, technobabble66 <stujaq...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> I kno this has been greatly discussed over the last few years, but i
> need an "official" clarification as the discussions are a bit
> fragmented.
But the answers are not.
> I need to kno exactly how cards may be played using Mata Hari's text.
> Obviously she can meet any clan or sect requirement (excluding anarch)
> when she plays a card. However, how does the text apply for cards
> stating things like "... This blah blah gets +1 blah ..."?
For effects of the play of the card, she is treated as the thing she
plays the card as.
Everything else (including effects of cards in play) treat her as what
she is.
> I'm under the impression that the played card "sees" MH as the
> appropriate clan/sect for the *duration of the action* and then she
> reverts to being indep Rav.
For action cards, sure.
> Hence MH should be able to play Bloodstorm of Chorazin, Ritual
> Challenge or Raking Talons to full effect.
Yes.
> MH could also play Ahrimane
> Protectorate, burn 1 blood to untap and burn it to cause a D action
> against a location to fail, but would not be able to burn it to gain
> the +1 intercept (or rather could burn it, but noone gains the +1).
Yes. (If you controlled an Ahrimane, then you could burn it to give
that Ahrimane +1 intercept).
> Could the answer please be also posted on the WW site as an official
> clarifcation? (apologies if it already is and i'm too blind to find
> it) - i'm fairly sure i've checked for this several times over the
> last few years.
Playing cards "as" is described for allies in [1.6.3] (due to the need
to describe handling of blood/life and capacity). Vampires work the
same way (that is, by card text, they "play" the card "as" something),
but without the need for all the special handling.
[ quoted text not captured ]
"For effects of the play of the card, she is treated as the thing she
plays the card as.
Everything else (including effects of cards in play) treat her as
what
she is. "
Thanks - full answer is greatly appreciated!
re: " the discussions are a bit fragmented." - i tried a few searches
to discover a categorical answer/explanation and couldn't find one,
tho i did learn a lot about a debate on defining anarchs from 2006 ;-)
Listing it under allies in 1.6.3 is fabulous if you plough thru the
rulebook; but it might be worthwhile cross-referencing it under an
other heading or mata hari specifically to direct people looking for
it in WW's 'All Rulings" section. Just a thought.