Order of Reactions Question

A question of ordering your play of reactions was brought to me recently dealing with Burnt Offerings and Telepathic Counter. Situation - Player A, "Ben" is bleeding Player B, "Paul" for 2 points. Paul accepts the bleed and plays Burnt Offerings at Superior, which causes Ben to lose 1 pool. Paul then plays Telepathic Counter at Superior to zero out the bleed. Is this legal? I am under impression it is not legal as the playing of Burnt Offerings stipulates the acceptance of at least 1 point of pool loss. The only acceptable way of playing the Telepathic Counter after the Burnt Offerings would be at Inferior, leaving the manditory loss of 1 pool. However, this is something I have never encounter before and am looking for the correct answer? Michael Eichler Prince of Ramstein

Ramsteiner wrote: > > A question of ordering your play of reactions was brought to me > recently dealing with Burnt Offerings and Telepathic Counter. > > Situation - > Player A, "Ben" is bleeding Player B, "Paul" for 2 points. > Paul accepts the bleed and plays Burnt Offerings at Superior, which > causes Ben to lose 1 pool. > Paul then plays Telepathic Counter at Superior to zero out the bleed. > > Is this legal? No. Burnt Offerings is only playable "if a minion controlled by your predator successfully bleeds you" - which is after the time TC could be played. > I am under impression it is not legal as the playing of Burnt > Offerings stipulates the acceptance of at least 1 point of pool loss. > The only acceptable way of playing the Telepathic Counter after the > Burnt Offerings would be at Inferior, leaving the manditory loss of 1 > pool. However, this is something I have never encounter before and am > looking for the correct answer? Even that is not allowable. The time has passed - you cannot back up and play the TC after the BO. -- LSJ (vte...@white-wolf.com) V:TES Net.Rep for White Wolf, Inc. Links to V:TES news, rules, cards, utilities, and tournament calendar: http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/

LSJ <vte...@white-wolf.com> wrote in message news:<3D05FEDB...@white-wolf.com>... > Ramsteiner wrote: > > > > A question of ordering your play of reactions was brought to me > > recently dealing with Burnt Offerings and Telepathic Counter. > > > > Situation - > > Player A, "Ben" is bleeding Player B, "Paul" for 2 points. > > Paul accepts the bleed and plays Burnt Offerings at Superior, which > > causes Ben to lose 1 pool. > > Paul then plays Telepathic Counter at Superior to zero out the bleed. > > > > Is this legal? > > No. Burnt Offerings is only playable "if a minion controlled by your > predator successfully bleeds you" - which is after the time TC could > be played. > > > I am under impression it is not legal as the playing of Burnt > > Offerings stipulates the acceptance of at least 1 point of pool loss. > > The only acceptable way of playing the Telepathic Counter after the > > Burnt Offerings would be at Inferior, leaving the manditory loss of 1 > > pool. However, this is something I have never encounter before and am > > looking for the correct answer? > > Even that is not allowable. The time has passed - you cannot back up > and play the TC after the BO. Ok. So the timing of Telepathic Counter is within the action of the Bleed. However, wouldn't the Burnt Offerings also fall into being within the action of the Bleed as it is a reaction card? I understand the text of Burnt Offerings indicating the requirement of a successful bleed needing to occur. What I need is clarification on the timing of two different cards and why TC has to occur prior to BO. Thanks [ quoted text not captured ]

[ quoted text not captured ] They're both "within the action of the bleed". One is played before the bleed resoves. The other is played after (since it can only be played when the bleed is successful, by card text). TC has to be played before the bleed resolves (just as Claws have to be played before the strike resolves). [ quoted text not captured ]

LSJ <vte...@white-wolf.com> wrote in message news:<3D075320...@white-wolf.com>... [ quoted text not captured ] Thanks. They got it. Yeah!