rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad

(LSJ) Andrew Stuart, Veil of Darkness, Direct Intervention, et al.

3 messages from 2 participants · 28 July 2010
original thread on Google Groups

floppyzedolfin

Hi, A is the acting Methuselah. C controls Veil of Darkness. A's action is blocked by E's Andrew Stuart. In the resulting combat, Andrew plays a Thaumaturgy card. In which order do these happen (let's say everyone passes on cancelling that card, just to have the whole sequence) ? (a) - A can play Botched Move on Andrew's card (or use Watenda's special on it, ...) (b) - B can play Direct Intervention on Andrew's card (c) - Veil of Darkness under C's control reveals Andrew's controller's top library card (let's say it's not a master card) (d) - D can play Direct Intervention on Andrew's card (e) - E's Andrew reveals her top library card (let's say it's not a Thaumaturgy card) We know (Rulebook 1.6.1.5) that, chronologically, (a) < (b) < (d) [with "<" == "happens before"], but still need to include (c) and (e) in there. Thanks, Pascal ~ ~ Andrew Stuart Cardtype: Vampire Clan: Tremere Group: 4 Capacity: 5 Discipline: AUS DOM THA Camarilla: When Andrew plays a card that requires Thaumaturgy, reveal the top card of your library (before drawing to replace). If it also requires Thaumaturgy, the card is canceled and Andrew burns 1 blood. Botched Move Cardtype: Combat Only usable as the opposing minion plays a card that requires a Discipline. The opposing minion's controller reveals the top two cards of his or her library (before drawing to replace). If another copy of the same combat card is revealed, the played card is canceled (cost is still paid), the opposing minion takes 1 unpreventable damage, and all revealed copies are burned. A minion may play only one Botched Move each combat. Direct Intervention Cardtype: Master Cost: 1 pool Master: out-of-turn. Cancel a minion card as it is played. No cost is paid. (If it was an action card, the acting minion doesn't tap. If it was a strike card, the minion chooses another strike.) Veil of Darkness Cardtype: Event Gehenna. Do not replace as long as this card is in play. Each turn, when a vampire plays his or her first card that turn that requires any Disciplines, that vampire's controller reveals the top card of his or her library (before drawing to replace). If it is a master card, the original card has no effect (no cost is paid), and in addition, if the original card required Obtenebration [obt], the vampire burns 2 blood. Watenda Cardtype: Vampire Clan: Malkavian Group: 2 Capacity: 3 Discipline: obf Camarilla: Once each combat, Watenda can cancel the effect of a combat card the opposing minion plays by burning an amount of blood equal to the blood or pool cost of the card. If the card is a strike card, the opposing minion chooses a new strike.

LSJ

On Jul 28, 7:19 am, floppyzedolfin <floppyzedol...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi, > > A is the acting Methuselah. > C controls Veil of Darkness. > > A's action is blocked by E's Andrew Stuart. > In the resulting combat, Andrew plays a Thaumaturgy card. > > In which order do these happen (let's say everyone passes on > cancelling that card, just to have the whole sequence) ? > > (a) - A can play Botched Move on Andrew's card (or use Watenda's > special on it, ...) > (b) - B can play Direct Intervention on Andrew's card > (c) - Veil of Darkness under C's control reveals Andrew's controller's > top library card (let's say it's not a master card) > (d) - D can play Direct Intervention on Andrew's card > (e) - E's Andrew reveals her top library card (let's say it's not a > Thaumaturgy card) > > We know (Rulebook 1.6.1.5) that, chronologically, (a) < (b) < (d) > [with "<" == "happens before"], but still need to include (c) and (e) > in there. (c) & (e) then (a) then (b) then (d) http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad/msg/5bf780bd884bf658 [ quoted text not captured ]

floppyzedolfin

On Jul 28, 1:56 pm, LSJ <vtes...@white-wolf.com> wrote: > On Jul 28, 7:19 am, floppyzedolfin <floppyzedol...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi, > > > A is the acting Methuselah. > > C controls Veil of Darkness. > > > A's action is blocked by E's Andrew Stuart. > > In the resulting combat, Andrew plays a Thaumaturgy card. > > > In which order do these happen (let's say everyone passes on > > cancelling that card, just to have the whole sequence) ? > > > (a) - A can play Botched Move on Andrew's card (or use Watenda's > > special on it, ...) > > (b) - B can play Direct Intervention on Andrew's card > > (c) - Veil of Darkness under C's control reveals Andrew's controller's > > top library card (let's say it's not a master card) > > (d) - D can play Direct Intervention on Andrew's card > > (e) - E's Andrew reveals her top library card (let's say it's not a > > Thaumaturgy card) > > > We know (Rulebook 1.6.1.5) that, chronologically, (a) < (b) < (d) > > [with "<" == "happens before"], but still need to include (c) and (e) > > in there. > > (c) & (e) > then (a) then (b) then (d) > > http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad/msg/5bf7... > Yep, I had that link, but it wasn't as explicit as your answer this time: in that message, Andrew was controlled by the acting Methuselah, whereas in my example, he isn't - I wanted to check whether the acting Methuselah received the impulse to cancel the card before "environmental" effects would happen (those effects here being Veil of Darkness and Andrew's cardtext). Thanks !