rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad

A few rules questions (LSJ)

7 messages from 7 participants · 31 August 2007 – 03 September 2007
original thread on Google Groups

pu...@o2.pl

1. Can I look for a Gehenna card and don't find it with Fortschritt Library (to cycle the Fortschritt Libary)? 2. Do I have to announce which master cards I am exhcanging using Anthelios, the Red Star? Or when I'm done with the exchange can I simply refuse to tell which masters I swapped saying something like 'you could have examined my ash heap earlier'? 3. Can I use multiple Dreams of the Sphinx during one turn (for example draw 2 cards in my untap phase burning Dreams of the Sphinx, then play another copy in my master phase and tap it immedietely to get 11 hand size)? 4. Does Second Sight stack? Can I burn multiple copies of it during a single action to get more than 1 intercept or pseudo-stealth? 5. At which point exactly is Strike with Conviction burned while using to bleed at +1 bleed? After the action is successfull or after the action ends? Can I use the same Strike with Conviction that I used to bleed to get +1 damage when I'm blocked? 6. What happens to Powers put into play via Edge Explosion while it is burned by The Uncoiling/Black Hand Ritual? Do they stay on the Imbued and cannot be used (have no effect)? Is it true both for powers with always-on effects and action/action modifier/reaction-style powers? 7. Can I count the number of cards in my deck while cutting the deck with Unity? For example leaving certain number of cards at the top/ bottom of the library? Regards

J

IANLSJ (much more handsome) :P but; > 1. Can I look for a Gehenna card and don't find it with Fortschritt > Library (to cycle the Fortschritt Libary)? yes. you don't have to find something when you search unless card text specifies (such as Vast Wealth) > 2. Do I have to announce which master cards I am exhcanging using > Anthelios, the Red Star? Or when I'm done with the exchange can I > simply refuse to tell which masters I swapped saying something like > 'you could have examined my ash heap earlier'? This I am not sure, I believe you have to anounce it, but I may be wrong. > 3. Can I use multiple Dreams of the Sphinx during one turn (for > example draw 2 cards in my untap phase burning Dreams of the Sphinx, > then play another copy in my master phase and tap it immedietely to > get 11 hand size)? yes. > 4. Does Second Sight stack? Can I burn multiple copies of it during a > single action to get more than 1 intercept or pseudo-stealth? no. card text specifies that you cannot burn more than 1 per action. > 5. At which point exactly is Strike with Conviction burned while using > to bleed at +1 bleed? After the action is successfull or after the > action ends? Can I use the same Strike with Conviction that I used to > bleed to get +1 damage when I'm blocked? after the action is successful in the same way as paying the blood cost for a Legal Manipulation. So yes, you can use it to strike for +1 damage if you are blocked. > 6. What happens to Powers put into play via Edge Explosion while it is > burned by The Uncoiling/Black Hand Ritual? Do they stay on the Imbued > and cannot be used (have no effect)? Is it true both for powers with > always-on effects and action/action modifier/reaction-style powers? I believe that they stay in play and are able to be used. The conditions to get them are not necessary to use them, (in the same way as a Femur of Toomler can only be brought into play by a Tzimisce, but can be used by anyone after that). > 7. Can I count the number of cards in my deck while cutting the deck > with Unity? For example leaving certain number of cards at the top/ > bottom of the library? I don't think so, no. --> J grail_pbem "at" hotmail.com

librarian

pu...@o2.pl wrote: > 1. Can I look for a Gehenna card and don't find it with Fortschritt > Library (to cycle the Fortschritt Libary)? > Sure. > 2. Do I have to announce which master cards I am exhcanging using > Anthelios, the Red Star? Or when I'm done with the exchange can I > simply refuse to tell which masters I swapped saying something like > 'you could have examined my ash heap earlier'? You must announce the entirety of each play. The only time this doesn't apply, AFAIK, is when announcing the terms of a referendum before blocks. > > 3. Can I use multiple Dreams of the Sphinx during one turn (for > example draw 2 cards in my untap phase burning Dreams of the Sphinx, > then play another copy in my master phase and tap it immedietely to > get 11 hand size)? Yes. > > 4. Does Second Sight stack? Can I burn multiple copies of it during a > single action to get more than 1 intercept or pseudo-stealth? Card text says " An imbued may burn only one Second Sight for the following effects each action." > > 5. At which point exactly is Strike with Conviction burned while using > to bleed at +1 bleed? When the action is declared. After the action is successfull or after the > action ends? Can I use the same Strike with Conviction that I used to > bleed to get +1 damage when I'm blocked? > Moot. > 6. What happens to Powers put into play via Edge Explosion while it is > burned by The Uncoiling/Black Hand Ritual? They can still use them. Unless it says "This imbued with Innocence..." or something like that. Do they stay on the Imbued > and cannot be used (have no effect)? Is it true both for powers with > always-on effects and action/action modifier/reaction-style powers? > Sure. > 7. Can I count the number of cards in my deck while cutting the deck > with Unity? For example leaving certain number of cards at the top/ > bottom of the library? > Sure. I am usually wrong about these things, so let's wait and see what LSJ says... -- Super Fun Cards http://stores.ebay.com/superfuncards/ auct...@superfuncards.com

LSJ

J is correct except as noted below. J wrote: > IANLSJ (much more handsome) :P Incorrect. > but; > >> 1. Can I look for a Gehenna card and don't find it with Fortschritt >> Library (to cycle the Fortschritt Libary)? > > yes. you don't have to find something when you search unless card > text specifies (such as Vast Wealth) > >> 2. Do I have to announce which master cards I am exhcanging using >> Anthelios, the Red Star? Or when I'm done with the exchange can I >> simply refuse to tell which masters I swapped saying something like >> 'you could have examined my ash heap earlier'? > > This I am not sure, I believe you have to anounce it, but I may be > wrong. Announce, yes. And note that it doesn't matter in this case, since the ash heap is public information (so both cards would be known immediately) and nothing can cancel the effect between announcement and execution. [ quoted text not captured ] Yes. You can count the number of cards at any time, and may cut a particular number whenever you cut any deck.

Jeroen

On 31 aug, 14:33, LSJ <vtes...@white-wolf.com> wrote: > J is correct except as noted below. > > J wrote: > > IANLSJ (much more handsome) :P > > Incorrect. > You mean J is you? ;)

Benird

On Aug 31, 11:52 am, librarian <aucti...@superfuncards.com> wrote: > pu...@o2.pl wrote: > > > 5. At which point exactly isStrike with Convictionburned while using > > to bleed at +1 bleed? > > When the action is declared. > > After the action is successfull or after the > > > action ends? Can I use the sameStrike with Convictionthat I used to > > bleed to get +1 damage when I'm blocked? > > Moot. > I'm confused. J has said that Strike With Conviciton is burrned at action resolution (since it's the cost of the action) and Librarian has said that using it to get +1 strength is moot? When is Strike with Conviction burnned? As action resolution (as the cost of an action), or At action Declaration (effectively making it an action modifier)? I see it as an action Modifier so gets burnned when it's used, no matter if the ation is successful or not.

JH

[ quoted text not captured ] Strike with Conviction is burned as a cost. If the action is unsuccessful you don't burn it.