Mr. Noir, Rico Loco, Dawn Operation

Seems like there is a deck here: Mr. Noir [LoB:U] Cardtype: Vampire Clan: Salubri Group: 4 Capacity: 3 Discipline: for obe Independent: If Mr. Noir is burned in combat, you gain 2 pool. Scarce. Artist: Peter Bergting Rico Loco [Third:V] Cardtype: Vampire Clan: Ventrue antitribu Group: 4 Capacity: 2 Discipline: FOR Sabbat. Black Hand: If Rico is ready during your master phase, move a Bomb from your hand or ash heap to him (no cost) or he takes 1 damage. During your untap phase, if Rico is ready and has a Bomb, burn the Bomb and another ready minion you control takes 2 damage. Dawn Operation [Jyhad:U, VTES:U, CE:U, Anarchs:PG2, LoB:PA2] Cardtype: Action Modifier Discipline: Fortitude [for] If this action is blocked, all damage inflicted to all vampires in the resulting combat is aggravated. Any vampire attempting to block may now choose not to block. [FOR] As above, but vampires attempting to block cannot back out. Artist: Christopher Rush; Brian LeBlanc Just need a way to turbo Mr. Noir and the Bomb. Soul Gem? Some sort of Necro trick? Other? Frontal Assault should be used often, Embrace like crazy (gets the 2 blood off Mr. Noir), and then swarm oust. best - chris

Dear chris, But what if the just dont block? :-/ Greetz, Oortje

[ quoted text not captured ] Best to file this under: Bad Ideas or Sarcasm Misunderstood. ;) 1. Embracing salubri dudes, then planning to bring out new salubri - costly business. 2. How do you burn Noir? Hunt, hope someone blocks and does 2 agg. damage on you? The bomb does regular damage, and in your untap phase. Going to torpor without combat, fails to fulfill both conditions on Mr. Noir. Cheers, B

[ quoted text not captured ] 5 agg does The job - bomb +dawn operation and someone want to block/he have only inferior fortitude :/ /

> 1. Embracing salubri dudes, then planning to bring out new salubri - > costly business. Salubri Embraces are not scarce and do not contribute to the scarce penalty.

[ quoted text not captured ] They are Salubri, so they do contribute to the penalty for any scarce Salubri influenced out.

Librarian, here is the deck you want: Get 2 Blood Dolls onto Rico and the Castle into play, so you can trade bombs for blood every round when you try to burn Mr. Noir. He bleeds with the Marionette, if your prey takes it and taps a minion, keep bleeding. If he blocks, then explode, and try to come back the same turn through crypt draw preparation or Hand of Conrad. Should go up to 90 cards, but I leave the last 10 for anyone interested to add their own flavour. (Deflection module? Allies? Some gio-necro twist? More combat or rush?>) Your !tremere get the dom outferior of Spirit Marionette, until you upgrade them with Infernal Pact and put your castle to other diabolical uses. Crypt: (13) 4x Mr. Noir(G4) 3x Rico Loco(G4) 1x Ember Wright(G3) 1x Keith Moody(G4) 1x Lana Butcher(G3) 1x Saiz(G3) 1x Sarah Raines(G3) 1x Ulrike Rothbart(G4) Library: (80) Master: (20) 5x Blood Doll 3x Effective Management 2x Dreams of the Sphinx 2x Fortitude 2x Heidelberg Castle, Germany 2x Infernal Pact 1x Auspex 1x Fame 1x Humanitas 1x Path of Death and the Soul Action: (19) 12x Spirit Marionette 2x Force of Will 2x The Embrace 2x Thin-Blooded Seer 1x Computer Hacking Action Modifier: (13) 9x Daring the Dawn 4x Freak Drive Combat: (15) 10x Indomitability 4x Weighted Walking Stick 1x Eye of Unforgiving Heaven Equipment: (11) 8x Bomb 1x Catacombs 1x Hand of Conrad 1x Soul Gem of Etrius Retainer: (2) 1x J. S. Simmons, Esq. 1x Tasha Morgan

[ quoted text not captured ] But only if influenced out? What about if they come out via Soul Gem or Possession? Looks like from section 11 from the rule book, the scarce penalty is not triggered. -- Super Fun Cards http://myworld.ebay.com/superfuncards/ auct...@superfuncards.com

[ quoted text not captured ] Heh, I guess if you just one time do the Bomb trick, your prey won't block many of your future Spirit Marionettes. best - chris [ quoted text not captured ]

"d" <david.cor...@gmail.com> writes: > Get 2 Blood Dolls onto Rico and the Castle into play, so you can trade > bombs for blood every round when you try to burn Mr. Noir. > He bleeds with the Marionette, if your prey takes it and taps a > minion, keep bleeding. If he blocks, then explode, and try to come > back the same turn through ... > Action Modifier: (13) > 9x Daring the Dawn You must mean Dawn Operation instead of Daring the Dawn, which would blow up Mr. Noir but not trigger his special ability. -- hg@ "If you can't offend part of your audience, iki.fi there is no point in being an artist at all." -Hakim Bey

librarian wrote: > LSJ wrote: >> Malone wrote: >>>> 1. Embracing salubri dudes, then planning to bring out new salubri - >>>> costly business. >>> >>> Salubri Embraces are not scarce and do not contribute to the scarce >>> penalty. >> >> They are Salubri, so they do contribute to the penalty for any scarce >> Salubri influenced out. > > But only if influenced out? Or otherwise moved from uncontrolled region to controlled region during the influence phase, yes. > What about if they come out via Soul Gem or > Possession? Looks like from section 11 from the rule book, the scarce > penalty is not triggered. Correct.

On Mar 19, 4:52 pm, h...@iki.fi.remove.these.invalid (Janne Hägglund) wrote: [ quoted text not captured ] Yep, should be 9x Dawn Operation, per the original post. Adding 1 or 2 Daring the Dawns wouldn't hurt for final ousting either.

On 19 mrt, 17:27, librarian <aucti...@superfuncards.com> wrote: > Oortje wrote: > > > Dear chris, > > > But what if the just dont block? :-/ > > > Greetz, > > Oortje > > Heh, I guess if you just one time do the Bomb trick, your prey won't > block many of your future Spirit Marionettes. > > best - > > chris eehhm.. The spirit marionet of mr noir is not very fearfull. He can only bleed for +1 with it. You can just as wel try to make something with Bomb +Flesh of marble (with or without the dawn operation+ skin of night). i too tried to do something do something fun/ usefull with him but after a failed soulgem trickdeck I gave up. It never got further then the "drawingboard". Good luck trying though! Greetings, Oortje