rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad

Another Temptation question

6 messages from 6 participants · 29 January 1997 – 31 January 1997
original thread on Google Groups

Michael Kelly

Here's another Temptation question. If the Temptation has 0 counters on it and the victim has 0 blood, can Temptation be used to take over the vampire for that turn? The card reads: Put this card on a ready vampire. Each master phase, if the number of counters on this card equals or exceeds the amount of blood on the named vampire, you may burn all the counters on this card to untap that vampire and take control of him or her until the end of your turn. The number of counters equals the blood but there are no counters to burn. Of course burn all the counters would be reasonably applied to 0 counters. I think that it would be legal but I'd like to check first. Why would I want to do this, you ask? Let that be a teaser. Try to figure out why I would want to take control of a vampire with 0 blood... I love this card.

Hardrock Llewynyth

Thus saith Michael Kelly the Unworthy, in the Year of Our Lord Wed, 29 Jan 1997 10:07:17 -0800 : > Here's another Temptation question. If the Temptation has > 0 counters on it and the victim has 0 blood, can > Temptation be used to take over the vampire for that turn? > The card reads: Not sure about this one. Since i play FoS myself, i would say that yes, it would work. However, since the card has that bit about "exceeds" i would assume that the official ruling would be that you would need at least one counter. > Why would I want to do this, you ask? Let that be a > teaser. Try to figure out why I would want to take > control of a vampire with 0 blood... I may be completely off in another world, but i remember something abouta card of vampire that lets you burn a minion you control to gain half that vamp's capacity in pool. Hardrock -- Hardrock Llewynyth a.g.AB founding member (DNRC) hard...@speakeasy.org http://www.speakeasy.org/~hardrock There is no sunny side of the street at night. --Lavinnia + + v v

L. Scott Johnson

Michael Kelly <ke...@lmsc.lockheed.com> writes: >Here's another Temptation question. If the Temptation has >0 counters on it and the victim has 0 blood, can >Temptation be used to take over the vampire for that turn? Sure. >The card reads: >Put this card on a ready vampire. Each master phase, >if the number of counters on this card equals or exceeds >the amount of blood on the named vampire, you may burn >all the counters on this card to untap that vampire and >take control of him or her until the end of your turn. >The number of counters equals the blood but there are no >counters to burn. Of course burn all the counters would >be reasonably applied to 0 counters. I think that it >would be legal but I'd like to check first. It is legal, for exactly the reasoning you state. >Why would I want to do this, you ask? Let that be a >teaser. Try to figure out why I would want to take >control of a vampire with 0 blood... A pair of common reasons: * He has a peice of equipment that you'd like to transfer to one of your minions. * He is titled, and you need his votes for a political action (or an anticipated blood hunt). Several pathological cases: * You have Heidelburg Castle untapped, a ready vampire with more than four blood, and a Return to Innocence in your hand. You can steal the Tempted minion, move some blood to him, and burn him in a large +bleed attempt. * There's an Antidiluvial Awakening out - you could burn the poor sap to remove the cards. * There's a Judgment: Camarilla Segregation out and you don't feel like burning Carlotta, so you tempt an empty non-cam to satisfy the judgement. * He's in Torpor and you want to diablerize him, but can't get by the potential blockers. etc. -- L. Scott Johnson (sjoh...@math.sc.edu) | Refuse Novacaine - http://www.math.sc.edu/cgi-bin/sjohnson/home | Transcend Dental Medication! Graphics Specialist and V:tES Rulemonger. |

Steven Bucy

Michael Kelly <ke...@lmsc.lockheed.com> wrote in article <32EF91...@lmsc.lockheed.com>... (snip of Temptation question) > Why would I want to do this, you ask? Let that be a > teaser. Try to figure out why I would want to take > control of a vampire with 0 blood... > > I love this card. The most obvious reason would be to prevent your prey from playing those stinking Telepathic Counter cards. I have scene someone wake and play TC three of four times in one turn with a vamp at zero capacity. Get control of the vamp with Auspex and you won't have this problem. Steve Bucy I'd be better off undead... "Hmmm. I notice the number of conditional phrases in there... _seems_ to indicate a weakness, _may_ be vulnerable in theory." - G'Kar

Daemolin66

On Wed, 29 Jan 1997 10:07:17 -0800, Michael Kelly <ke...@lmsc.lockheed.com> wrote: >Here's another Temptation question. If the Temptation has >0 counters on it and the victim has 0 blood, can >Temptation be used to take over the vampire for that turn? >The card reads: > >Put this card on a ready vampire. Each master phase, >if the number of counters on this card equals or exceeds >the amount of blood on the named vampire, you may burn >all the counters on this card to untap that vampire and >take control of him or her until the end of your turn. > >The number of counters equals the blood but there are no >counters to burn. Of course burn all the counters would >be reasonably applied to 0 counters. I think that it >would be legal but I'd like to check first. > >Why would I want to do this, you ask? Let that be a >teaser. Try to figure out why I would want to take >control of a vampire with 0 blood... > >I love this card. I suppose you could do this, but wy ???? The only action you can do with a vampire without blood it's hunting ! Maybe you want to do a golconda inner peace ?!

Timothy Coffman

In article <32f109f5...@news.microtec.net>, fran...@microtec.net says... > >>Why would I want to do this, you ask? Let that be a >>teaser. Try to figure out why I would want to take >>control of a vampire with 0 blood... >> >>I love this card. > >I suppose you could do this, but wy ???? The only action you can do >with a vampire without blood it's hunting ! Maybe you want to do a >golconda inner peace ?! You can't Golconda because you add a counter during your master phase, but you take control during your minion phase. Thus no Minion Tap, Blood Doll, Hunting Ground, Tribute To The Master, Disciplines, Fame, etc.