Has anyone built a deck around Madness Network+Baltimore Purge?
With Homunculus, freak drives, or 2nd+obedience, you can do one purge per
player on their turn, and torporize multiple vampires during your untap
for the cost of a single vamp. Malks should have the stealth to pull it
off, the only problem is setting up the deck to run multiple purges in one
turn. Throw in some small lasombra for control of the purges (or possibly
clan impersonations.) Lots of obedience for combat and network defense. A
few smaller malks. Some Bitter Roses for blood gain.
Thoughts?
Cy
"Cy H. Myers" <cym...@ecst.csuchico.edu> wrote in message
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Just 1. why not combine this idea with the Derange + malkavian Dementia
combo. Steel your Prey's Deranged vamp and let him play the Purge. Play the
Derange in your Predator's turn preferably.
J
> > Has anyone built a deck around Madness Network+Baltimore Purge?
> > With Homunculus, freak drives, or 2nd+obedience, you can do one purge
per
> > player on their turn, and torporize multiple vampires during your untap
> > for the cost of a single vamp. Malks should have the stealth to pull it
> > off, the only problem is setting up the deck to run multiple purges in
one
> > turn. Throw in some small lasombra for control of the purges (or
possibly
> > clan impersonations.) Lots of obedience for combat and network defense.
A
> > few smaller malks. Some Bitter Roses for blood gain.
> >
> > Thoughts?
>
> Just 1. why not combine this idea with the Derange + malkavian Dementia
> combo. Steel your Prey's Deranged vamp and let him play the Purge. Play
the
> Derange in your Predator's turn preferably.
Who needs Malks ? Lasombras have stealth, Graverobbing, 3 have For (and so
do Vitel and Kassyim), and they can Mind Rape somebody. No need to use
Madness Network, it can work quite well during your turn. The combos with
Tyler also seem nice...
Yours,
Orpheus, who can barely wait to get his new Lasombra Torpor Deck going...
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Baltimore Purge
Action
Requires a ready vampire.
If this vampire is Ravnos (Ravnos symbol), the action is at +1 stealth. Put
this card on the acting vampire. During your untap phase, burn this card,
and each other Methuselah chooses a ready vampire he or she controls who is
not older than this vampire. If you control a ready Lasombra (Lasombra
symbol), you choose the vampire instead. This vampire and the chosen
vampires go to torpor.
Madness Network really can come in handy. Card text never mentiones that a
vampire can only have one Baltimore Purge. So you can load up one 10 cap
malk with for with 4 Purges if you want to, sent your vamp to torpor and
choose (with a small Lasombra controlled) 4 vamps from each player to take a
dirt nap. Add Tension in The Ranks, Fame and Grave Robbing. The table won't
like this I think :-)
Jeroen
cym...@ecst.csuchico.edu (Cy H. Myers) wrote in message news:<ajtvq3$nkb$1...@hubble.csuchico.edu>...
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Just curious about the rules that govern Madness Network when applied
to the NRA rule (not necessarily the revised NRA rule, just NRA in
general).
If a vamp uses MN to perform an "out of turn" action,(such as bleeding
or Baltimore Purge), than uptaps via one or more of the methods you
noted above and does the same action again at the end of the next
methuselah's turn,is this considered a "repeat action"?
Re: your deck idea, using BP without getting rushed/intercepted by
everyone will allready be a big challenge. I wonder if madness network
(as well as the untapping between actions) will envolve too many
moving parts... Though I do see where you're going with it:
Theorhetically, with 3-4 additional BP actions taken at the end of
everyone's turn, you could torporize everyone at the table. Eek. That
is wonderfully sleazy.
Ped Xing wrote:
> Just curious about the rules that govern Madness Network when applied
> to the NRA rule (not necessarily the revised NRA rule, just NRA in
> general).
The NRA applies to each turn, not just your turn.
But it doesn't span turns.
--
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ped_...@hotmail.com (Ped Xing) wrote in message news:<51ecf271.02082...@posting.google.com>...
> cym...@ecst.csuchico.edu (Cy H. Myers) wrote in message news:<ajtvq3$nkb$1...@hubble.csuchico.edu>...> Re: your deck idea, using BP without getting rushed/intercepted by
> everyone will allready be a big challenge. I wonder if madness network
it doesn't really matter if you get rushed. if they put your vampire
in torpor...like...boo hoo? it would only go to torpor in your untap
anyway. the text says nothing about the vampire needing to stay ready
for your untap phase.
however, if your vamp got put in torpor and then eaten...well, that's
a whole other bowl of noodles.
salem.
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Well, tremeres have on of the best cards to provoke havoc with this card and
leave torpor unblocked.The CHANTRY. The key will be having enough stealth to
pass the action, however. But Etrius has superior OBF and pro for Horrific
Countenance, didn't he?
Well, a Tremere Intercept-combat deck with a few BP and a bunch of small
lasombras may work. Dug in 4 chantry and the classical Tremere Pack(tm):
Arcane, Ankara, 2xRutor's Hand,4x Magic of the smith,...
Well, another Baltimore's Purge deck. Almost any clan will find a way to
play it.
Aaron Dugan and Cameron,
eager to become the Most Contested Vamps of the Game
Tom,Mad&Co
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That would be frightening, BUT unfortunately it will never see the light of
day with the new NRA rules...(and old ones for that matter).
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> > Madness Network really can come in handy. Card text never mentiones that
a
> > vampire can only have one Baltimore Purge. So you can load up one 10 cap
> > malk with for with 4 Purges if you want to, sent your vamp to torpor and
> > choose (with a small Lasombra controlled) 4 vamps from each player to
take
> a
> > dirt nap. Add Tension in The Ranks, Fame and Grave Robbing. The table
> won't
> > like this I think :-)
> >
> That would be frightening, BUT unfortunately it will never see the light
of
> day with the new NRA rules...(and old ones for that matter).
>
Please explain.
Such combos were never illegal. NRA only counts PER TURN. So with MN a
malk could eg, bleed 4 times if he/she could untap.
I think LSJ's message below explains it better, but I haven't read it yet.
Go take a look.
Jeroen
Well, I have just come from playing a game with a Baltimore Purge deck
on the table. This card is STRONG! Considering some of the ideas
that I have been reading about, the deck in question was probably not
even that efficient ( plus it only had 2 or 3 BP). It was an odd Malk
deck with Lucian doing the purging. I managed to oust my prey before
the first one came putting me directly across from it. I didn't get
smacked too hard from that one as he gave me my choice of vamp to put
in torpor ( a damn Progeny managed to Clan Impersonate into a
Lasombra!) and I was the only one to get mine back ( however I had
already lost Kanimana Belghazi to him earlier with a cross table Grave
Robbing). The deck stole 4 vamps during the course of the game, and
one other was diablerized because of it. Even the Clan Impersonations
managed to be really useful as Didi Myers turned into a Tremere after
stealing a couple of beefed up Gargoyles! ( and don't laugh, that
Gargoyle deck was pretty darn good). Even with the entire table
turned against it, the deck managed to kick ass. It was a long game,
however, and the deck ran out of cards and eventually pulled from the
Jyhad successfully. This deck, as I mentioned before, wasn't even as
focused as it could have been, but it already proves to me that this
card is going to be a big game changer. I only got to tie the game
because the (not so) silly Gargoyles managed to beat me up after the
BP deck left ( I had managed to oust my second prey as the second
purge was called, and stopped the BP deck from gaining another big
healthy vamp straight outta the grave) but if it hadn't run out of
cards I am certain that it would have ran the rest of the table and
taken the GW. And he only had about 2 in there!
Robert Scythe.
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My plan was to load up on Obedience for Rush defense. There are a lot
of moving parts, yeah. But if it settles, you're golden.
The moving parts are:
Untap (2nd tradition, subway, precognizant, homunculus, freak)
Obedience
BP
Stealth (Your choice of OBF)
Icing (Hand management, Grave robbings, Bitter Roses, etc.)
Clan impersonation is probably better than adding Lasombra upon reflection.