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LSJ - Heaven's Gate & Young Bloods and others...

2 messages from 2 participants · 21 September 2006
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lambach

1. How would these two cards work if a player uses a Heaven's Gate to keep his Young blood alive? Would the opposing minion gain two blood? We have this doubt last night as Heaven's Gate says "...when an ally is burned in combat" not ..."when an ally would be burned in combat". Would Yong blood (or any other Ally) return untapped if it was tapped during the action? Heaven's Gate Type: Combat Requires: Obeah/Necromancy Cost: 1 blood Only usable by a ready untapped vampire not involved in combat. [nec] Prevent 1 damage to an ally in combat. [obe] Only usable when an ally is burned in combat. Move that ally to his or her controller's uncontrolled region (controlled, but not ready) instead. Put 1 life on the ally from the blood bank if he or she has no life. [OBE] As [obe] above, but add up to 2 life to the ally, not to exceed his or her starting amount. Young Bloods Type: Ally Cost: 2 pool Unique mortal with 3 life. 2 strength, 0 bleed. The Young Bloods can burn 2 blood from a tapped vampire with a capacity less than 8 as a +1 stealth (D) action. If a vampire controlled by another Methuselah burns the Young Bloods in combat or as an action, he or she gains 2 blood. 2. This is an old one but people here keep saying a minion can't steal blood from retainers so I am asking an official position. Can an opposing minon steal blood from a retainer at long range? 3. Just needing a clarification here. Black Forest Base is a location you control but any sabbat vampire from others Mathuselahs can call the referendum to gain two pool, right? (I don't remember any other location that allow others Mathuselahs but its controller to use its abillities so the strange feeling) Black Forest Base Type: Master Requires: sabbat Master: unique location. Requires a ready Sabbat vampire. Once each turn, a Sabbat vampire may call a referendum to give his or her controller 2 pool from the blood bank as a +1 stealth political action. Any Changeling may burn this card as a +1 stealth (D) action. Thank you.

LSJ

lambach wrote: > 1. How would these two cards work if a player uses a Heaven's Gate to > keep his Young blood alive? Would the opposing minion gain two blood? > We have this doubt last night as Heaven's Gate says "...when an ally is > burned in combat" not ..."when an ally would be burned in combat". Heaven's Gate says "instead", which means the ally is not burned. The opposing vampire gains no blood from Young Bloods' effect. > Would Yong blood (or any other Ally) return untapped if it was tapped > during the action? Yes. > Heaven's Gate > Type: Combat > Requires: Obeah/Necromancy > Cost: 1 blood > Only usable by a ready untapped vampire not involved in combat. > [nec] Prevent 1 damage to an ally in combat. > [obe] Only usable when an ally is burned in combat. Move that ally to > his or her controller's uncontrolled region (controlled, but not ready) > instead. Put 1 life on the ally from the blood bank if he or she has no > life. > [OBE] As [obe] above, but add up to 2 life to the ally, not to exceed > his or her starting amount. > > Young Bloods > Type: Ally > Cost: 2 pool > Unique mortal with 3 life. 2 strength, 0 bleed. > The Young Bloods can burn 2 blood from a tapped vampire with a capacity > less than 8 as a +1 stealth (D) action. If a vampire controlled by > another Methuselah burns the Young Bloods in combat or as an action, he > or she gains 2 blood. > > 2. This is an old one but people here keep saying a minion can't steal > blood from retainers so I am asking an official position. Can an > opposing minon steal blood from a retainer at long range? Yes. http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/rulebook/rulebook.html#sec6_4_5 > 3. Just needing a clarification here. Black Forest Base is a location > you control but any sabbat vampire from others Mathuselahs can call the > referendum to gain two pool, right? (I don't remember any other > location that allow others Mathuselahs but its controller to use its > abillities so the strange feeling) Yes. Other examples: Filchware's Pawn Shop Stealable/burnable locations Powerbases Kingston Penitentiary, Ontario [ quoted text not captured ]