Defeat Bleed?

I've bought about 3 decks, 5 boosters (so what can i say? ive only been in this 2 weeks...) my friends got a good malk deck and bleeds the sh*t out of me. I got seven(yep, 7) auspex cards, no Radio Station or sports bikes, so blocking's not so flash. Any ideas? (2 Malks and no Ventrue, so bleeding him is out of the picture...)

[ quoted text not captured ] If you are playing only 2-player games, a lot of defenses go flying out the window (notably bleed-bounce (using Deflections) and _possibly_ offensive vote-race (using damage votes to kill before killed)). What kind of environment do you play with? Pure (by the Rulebook) Jyhad, Duelist Convocation Tournament Rules, something else? These questions are important. Have you been trading yet? With so few cards, its hard to build a balanced deck without trading. Hope to hear from you. [Reply-to:sull...@cslab.uwlax.edu] @ The Corrupter - Adrian Lee Sullivan @ GAT/CS/WS R+++* r(+)>++ # Gamer Coffee-Addict Scripter Author # C(+++)$ USX+$ N++ e+* @#$ Comments ? sull...@cslab.uwlax.edu $#@ tv(+)> X++ b++(+++) @#$ <http://cslab.uwlax.edu/~sulli_al/jyhad> $#@ PS+&-+ PE&-&++ z*+?

rob...@adam.com.au (robert donoghue) writes: >I've bought about 3 decks, 5 boosters (so what can i say? ive only been >in this 2 weeks...) >my friends got a good malk deck and bleeds the sh*t out of me. I got >seven(yep, 7) auspex cards, no Radio Station or sports bikes, so >blocking's not so flash. Any ideas? (2 Malks and no Ventrue, so bleeding >him is out of the picture...) Sounds like your playing a two-player game. If so, try getting more players. Other defenses: Bounce (use deflection and/or Telemathic Misdirection) - only useful in a three-or-more-player-game. Combat: Stock some Bum's Rushes and Haven Uncovereds (and Archon, if you have them and can pass the vote), and beat his bleeders into torpor and then bleed him at you leisure. Protected Resources (a rare card). Archon Investigation (an uncommon card). -- L. Scott Johnson (sjoh...@math.sc.edu) | One single fact can ruin a http://www.math.sc.edu/cgi-bin/sjohnson/home | perfectly good argument. Graphics Specialist and V:tES Rulemonger. |

rob...@adam.com.au (robert donoghue) writes: >I've bought about 3 decks, 5 boosters (so what can i say? ive only been >in this 2 weeks...) >my friends got a good malk deck and bleeds the sh*t out of me. I got >seven(yep, 7) auspex cards, no Radio Station or sports bikes, so >blocking's not so flash. Any ideas? (2 Malks and no Ventrue, so bleeding >him is out of the picture...) As L. Scott Johnson states it appears that a good combat rush deck might be the best offense. Also try some Pulled Fangs. If you do more damage at close range than your opponent you can pull a fang. For starters this does 1 pt aggravated to them. I normally save this card for after I've knocked them to zero blood, and a pulled fang simply burns them out of the game. Look for more nasty combat combos. Try http://www.niksula.cs.hut.fi/~phartika/games/jyhad/ or http://members.aol.com/bbretall/jyhad/decks.htm for more ideas. I've been using alot of these decks with adaptation for the cards I have and the four card limit I use. Good luck. -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- pheersum inhabits the mortal shell of eric schultheis. one channels mailto://phee...@sb.net. pheersum manifests at http://www.sb.net/pheersum/Pheerpage.htm . the oracle speaks--"in theory there is no difference between theory & practice, but in practice..." ---------------------------------------------------------------------

theCorrupter (adr...@picard.cs.wisc.edu) wrote: : On 2 Oct 1996, robert donoghue wrote: : : > I've bought about 3 decks, 5 boosters (so what can i say? ive only been : > in this 2 weeks...) : > my friends got a good malk deck and bleeds the sh*t out of me. I got : > seven(yep, 7) auspex cards, no Radio Station or sports bikes, so : > blocking's not so flash. Any ideas? (2 Malks and no Ventrue, so bleeding : > him is out of the picture...) : : If you are playing only 2-player games, a lot of defenses go flying out : the window (notably bleed-bounce (using Deflections) and _possibly_ : offensive vote-race (using damage votes to kill before killed)). : : What kind of environment do you play with? Pure (by the Rulebook) Jyhad, : Duelist Convocation Tournament Rules, something else? These questions are : important. Have you been trading yet? With so few cards, its hard to : build a balanced deck without trading. : 3- or -4 player games, usually, so deflections are possible. We play by the VTES rulebook, and yes, i've traded a bit with the other guy. Unfortunately, while i had no idea he convinced me to stick with single-clan. Which is fine, but i was Nosfer. So, i traded all my blurs for stealth. Which is worthless at a 1 bleed each turn. Got some tremeres now, tho...and Malks too.

Pheersum (phee...@sb.net) wrote: : rob...@adam.com.au (robert donoghue) writes: : : >I've bought about 3 decks, 5 boosters (so what can i say? ive only : been : >in this 2 weeks...) : >my friends got a good malk deck and bleeds the sh*t out of me. I got : >seven(yep, 7) auspex cards, no Radio Station or sports bikes, so : >blocking's not so flash. Any ideas? (2 Malks and no Ventrue, so : bleeding : >him is out of the picture...) : : As L. Scott Johnson states it appears that a good combat rush deck might : be the best offense. Also try some Pulled Fangs. If you do more damage : at close range than your opponent you can pull a fang. For starters this : does 1 pt aggravated to them. I normally save this card for after I've : knocked them to zero blood, and a pulled fang simply burns them out of : the game. Look for more nasty combat combos. Try : http://www.niksula.cs.hut.fi/~phartika/games/jyhad/ or : http://members.aol.com/bbretall/jyhad/decks.htm for more ideas. I've : been using alot of these decks with adaptation for the cards I have and : the four card limit I use. Good luck. i'll look into it, but i've go 0 pulled fangs :(

Howdy folks - It's been awhile, but I have an idea. rob...@adam.com.au (robert donoghue) writes: Down south are we... >> I've bought about 3 decks, 5 boosters >> (so what can i say? i've only been in this 2 weeks...) Having fun Yet? You have more cards than what I started with! Was that Jyhad or VTes backs? >> my friends got a good malk deck Ah... but I'm sure we all have our opinions of how to measure a "good" deck. 8-) > i'll look into it, but i've go 0 pulled fangs :( Show of hands... who has some extra cards that they really don't want. I mean really, too many? Suppose "we" could drop a handful in an envelope and send them to Robert? I don't mean 5 pulled fangs... I mean, send Robert one of your extra vamps, a sports bike, deer rifle, chainsaw <g> etc.. Let's see if Robert's luck can change a bit. Agreed, stealthy Malk bleeds decks are boring and often quietly fade. Every once and awhile they surface. The newbies, (sorry Robert), find that it is the easiest deck to build with limited stock. "As he skips a pebble across the pond, the ripples break the serenity of the water." ======================================== Andrew Hart Email: Ta...@aol.com http://web.aimnet.com/~taven

I'd b'happy to drop a dozen or so cards to a fledgling. If you have any vampires you especially want, Robert, give me some e-mail, as I've dups of virtually all Jyhad/VTES vamps. And maybe a few 'generics', a 'Dodge', 'Lucky Blow', etc.. -j p.s. Do you want Jyhad or V:TES backs?

Andrew Hart (ah...@frk.com) wrote: : Howdy folks - It's been awhile, but I have an idea. : : rob...@adam.com.au (robert donoghue) writes: : : Down south are we... : : >> I've bought about 3 decks, 5 boosters : >> (so what can i say? i've only been in this 2 weeks...) : : Having fun Yet? You have more cards than what I started with! : Was that Jyhad or VTes backs? : : >> my friends got a good malk deck : : Ah... but I'm sure we all have our opinions of : how to measure a "good" deck. 8-) : : > i'll look into it, but i've go 0 pulled fangs :( : : Show of hands... who has some extra cards that : they really don't want. I mean really, too many? : : Suppose "we" could drop a handful in an envelope : and send them to Robert? I don't mean 5 pulled : fangs... I mean, send Robert one of your extra : vamps, a sports bike, deer rifle, chainsaw <g> etc.. : : Let's see if Robert's luck can change a bit. : : Agreed, stealthy Malk bleeds decks are boring and : often quietly fade. Every once and awhile they : surface. The newbies, (sorry Robert), find that : it is the easiest deck to build with limited stock. Aye. Well, if you're interested, my address is: Graham Donoghue 6 Joanna Road, Salisbury East, South Australia 5109 Whatever you have, no matter what, will be welcomed.

robert donoghue (rob...@adam.com.au) wrote: [ quoted text not captured ] Whoops. That was meant to be e-mail. Please ignore this address, potential abusers. :)