I have some questions:
Can a minion dodge oponents stutter step ?
How does Protected Resources work, is it during each bleeding actions,
each round, or just as long as it stays in play?
About 'Save Face' I don't get that card, when and how do I use it ?
About the "non-camarilla", does it mean independent,, or as it states
not member of the camarilla. And what about Caitif are they camarilla ?
the reason for this question is that non-camarilla is in the new version
translated to independent.
Jacob wrote:
> Can a minion dodge oponents stutter step ?
Yes.
> How does Protected Resources work, is it during each bleeding actions,
> each round, or just as long as it stays in play?
Each bleed action is capped at 2 pool loss as long as it stays in play.
> About 'Save Face' I don't get that card, when and how do I use it ?
What part of the description of when to use it don't you understand?
It's used by a vampire of the same clan as one of the combatants.
> About the "non-camarilla", does it mean independent,, or as it states
> not member of the camarilla. And what about Caitif are they camarilla ?
The latter. Yes.
> the reason for this question is that non-camarilla is in the new version
> translated to independent.
Only on vampires that are independent.
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In article <9h1msr$fie$1...@news.net.uni-c.dk>, Jacob <jje...@ifa.au.dk> wrote:
>I have some questions:
>
>Can a minion dodge oponents stutter step ?
Sure. Dodge negates the opposing guy's strike's effect on you, such
as stutter-step's damage.
>How does Protected Resources work, is it during each bleeding actions,
>each round, or just as long as it stays in play?
Well it obviously doesn't work when it's not in play. I'm not sure
what the question is. A given bleed action against you cannot burn
more than 2 of your pool while you have Protected Resources out.
Is that what you meant?
>About 'Save Face' I don't get that card, when and how do I use it ?
Do you mean you don't know how it works, or you don't know what it's good
for? I still don't know what it's good for, but it works like this:
When you have an untapped guy of clan X, and a younger guy from clan X
is in combat, you can play Save Face. Younger Clan X Guy gets a
mandatory press to continue. If he's ready at the end of combat, he
gains a blood.
Note that you don't have to control Younger Clan X Guy to play
it, apparently, which I still don't get, since the only other combat
card that you can play without controlling a guy involved in the
combat has very explicit text allowing you to do so, which Save Face
lacks.
>About the "non-camarilla", does it mean independent,, or as it states
>not member of the camarilla. And what about Caitif are they camarilla ?
>the reason for this question is that non-camarilla is in the new version
>translated to independent.
Caitiff are Camarilla. Non-Camarilla means non-camarilla, currently
Sabbat or Independent.
gomi
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Gomi no Sensei wrote:
> In article <9h1msr$fie$1...@news.net.uni-c.dk>, Jacob <jje...@ifa.au.dk> wrote:
> >I have some questions:
> >
> >Can a minion dodge oponents stutter step ?
>
> Sure. Dodge negates the opposing guy's strike's effect on you, such
> as stutter-step's damage.
But stutterstep also negates, the dodge, used to negate the stutterstep. ???
>
>
> >How does Protected Resources work, is it during each bleeding actions,
> >each round, or just as long as it stays in play?
>
> Well it obviously doesn't work when it's not in play. I'm not sure
> what the question is. A given bleed action against you cannot burn
> more than 2 of your pool while you have Protected Resources out.> Is that what you meant?>
Yes, thanks.
>
> >About 'Save Face' I don't get that card, when and how do I use it ?
>
> Do you mean you don't know how it works, or you don't know what it's good
> for? I still don't know what it's good for, but it works like this:
>
> When you have an untapped guy of clan X, and a younger guy from clan X
> is in combat, you can play Save Face. Younger Clan X Guy gets a
> mandatory press to continue. If he's ready at the end of combat, he
> gains a blood.
>
> Note that you don't have to control Younger Clan X Guy to play
> it, apparently, which I still don't get, since the only other combat
> card that you can play without controlling a guy involved in the
> combat has very explicit text allowing you to do so, which Save Face
> lacks.
>
Then I beleave it could be used in a Bruja or gangrel beat-vamires-to-death-deck.
The young vanpire gets a blood if it survives ant thats better than just using a
regular press.
>
> >About the "non-camarilla", does it mean independent,, or as it states
> >not member of the camarilla. And what about Caitif are they camarilla ?
> >the reason for this question is that non-camarilla is in the new version
> >translated to independent.
>
> Caitiff are Camarilla. Non-Camarilla means non-camarilla, currently
> Sabbat or Independent.>
That what I thougth.
>
>
> gomi
> --
> Yes, I believe but I'd rather not pray
> What I believe in I'd rather not say, baby
Jacob
Jacob wrote:
> Gomi no Sensei wrote:
> > In article <9h1msr$fie$1...@news.net.uni-c.dk>, Jacob <jje...@ifa.au.dk> wrote:
> > >I have some questions:
> > >
> > >Can a minion dodge oponents stutter step ?
> >
> > Sure. Dodge negates the opposing guy's strike's effect on you, such
> > as stutter-step's damage.
>
> But stutterstep also negates, the dodge, used to negate the stutterstep. ???
No. [6.4.5] explains what happens (see: dodge).
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> In article <9h1msr$fie$1...@news.net.uni-c.dk>, Jacob <jje...@ifa.au.dk> wrote:> >About 'Save Face' I don't get that card, when and how do I use it ?
>
> Do you mean you don't know how it works, or you don't know what it's good
> for? I still don't know what it's good for, but it works like this:
>
> When you have an untapped guy of clan X, and a younger guy from clan X
> is in combat, you can play Save Face. Younger Clan X Guy gets a
> mandatory press to continue. If he's ready at the end of combat, he
> gains a blood.
>
> Note that you don't have to control Younger Clan X Guy to play
> it, apparently, which I still don't get, since the only other combat
> card that you can play without controlling a guy involved in the
> combat has very explicit text allowing you to do so, which Save Face
> lacks.
I think the reason for this is: Nosferatu Putrescence needs "stronger"
card text than Save Face, because NP has no minion playing it: you,
the Methuselah, are playing the card. On Save Face, there's explicit
card text telling you what minion is playing the card and under what
conditions they may do so: "Usable only by an untapped vampire not
involved in the current combat [...] Choose a younger vampire of the
same clan who is involved in the combat. The chosen vampire gets a
mandatory press, only usable to continue combat."
Since it doesn't say you can only play this when you control one of
the combatants, you can play it even if you don't. The general rule
on combat cards is that they can be played only *by* combatants, not
only by minions controlled by the same Methuselah as one of the
combatants. Having explicitly broken that rule, there is no other
rule Save Face needs to break.
Josh
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