Was anyone else disappointed in the Jyhad/V:tES lack of coverage
in the Duelist #5? All there was was the one propoganda article on
V:tES. It didn't have any other articles on the game at all, the game
wasn't mentioned in the upcoming releases (bad move, which makes the
propoganda article look bad), and wasn't even mentioned in the
"Deckmaster Errata" section, that was all Magic.
I was, needless to say, quite disappointed by this.
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js...@discus.ise.vt.edu (Joseph Cochran) writes:
> Was anyone else disappointed in the Jyhad/V:tES lack of coverage
>in the Duelist #5?
Yes, although "disappointed" implies a certain amount of surprise. I
assume that until they can firmly change the game to V:tES they are
reluctant to bring in new people, who may be then be as upset as we to
have the old cards obseleted in favor of V:tES.
I also wonder how many people at Wizards have a deep interest in Jyhad.
Tom's posts to the Magic groups carry the fingerprints of a serious
interest in, and heavy play of, Magic. The Jyhad posts carried the
fingerprints of somebody just popping off answers to questions
(inconsistencies, overlooking obvious rules and errors). Of late that has
changed and things have improved but it's still nothing like Magic.
If they haven't many heavily interested in Jyhad, then they wouldn't have
much of an internal push to get Jyhad stuff published. The "Jyhad
variants" article, for example, seemed to be motivated by the [presumably
marketing] desire to speed the game, and not from the suggestions of a
devoted player growing bored with the standard game.
"Background" articles make up a significant part of the Magic stuff. I
suspect that contractual arrangements with WW suppress their ability to
publish that.
A lot of other articles come from the community, but this name change has
put some prickliness into that relationship. Would Wizards solicit
material from somebody who has flamed them in public re the name change?
That would exclude many of the heavy posters here or on AOL. If they
wanted to exclude those who had strongly disagreed, or if they have thin
skins on the definition of flaming, then basically every heavy poster is
out.
Finally, remeber the Duellist is a house organ. The primary purpose of a
house organ is to make the publisher money. The Jyhad cards are already
out there and there's no money to be made pushing them. While with Magic,
pushing already printed expansions will presumably help future sales, with
Jyhad the issue is questionable. Were I Wizards, having decided to change
the name, I would rather that new players started only after the name
change.
Curt Adams (curt...@aol.com)
Well, there are two sides to publishing Jyhad/V:TES articles in the Duelist.
The "pro" argument is that we should be covering all of our games, and
giving at least reasonably equal time to non-Magic games. The "con" argument
is that face it, the vast majority of our customers play Magic, so the vast
majority of the Duelist should cover Magic rather than other Deckmaster games.
The end result of this little battle is that while there will typically be
some V:TES material in each issue of the Duelist, if there's a lot of Magic
stuff that we think should be released, it will crowd the non-Magic stuff out
of the magazines. I personally side with the "pro" argument, but am not
going to have any real input on Duelist content until #7.
Make no mistake: This is not in any way an anti-V:TES stance. I suspect
Netrunner will run into the exact same problems, since it won't come close to
Magic's popularity either. It's just a question of how to best serve
the customer base.
I don't think we're likely to hold someone's opinion on the card back
change against them when considering potential authors. But we do go for
in-house authors first, assuming they can write, and the people here who play
Jyhad/V:TES regularly seem to be adequate for the article needs at this time.
Tom Wylie rec.games.trading-cards.* Network Representative for
aa...@cats.ucsc.edu Wizards of the Coast, Inc.
In article <3s738r$f...@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>,
Thomas R Wylie <aa...@cats.ucsc.edu> wrote:
>Well, there are two sides to publishing Jyhad/V:TES articles in the Duelist.
>The "pro" argument is that we should be covering all of our games, and
>giving at least reasonably equal time to non-Magic games. The "con" argument
>is that face it, the vast majority of our customers play Magic, so the vast
The thing that bothered me wasn't so much that there was only
one article, but that there was an article proclaiming how much you
wanted to support Jyhad/V:tES, while at the same time such obvious
oversights were made re: Jyhad in other areas of the same magazine. The
Errata section had no Jyhad errata (even though there are still
outstanding issues with errata), and the upcoming releases had nary a
mention of V:tES *nor* Dark Sovereigns. That speaks volumes more than
any article.
>I don't think we're likely to hold someone's opinion on the card back
>change against them when considering potential authors. But we do go for
>in-house authors first, assuming they can write, and the people here who play
>Jyhad/V:TES regularly seem to be adequate for the article needs at this time.
Besides, so what if the person has flamed on the net. Very few
people (relatively speaking) would even know that, much less have read
the content of that person's flames.
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Tom: Have you guys considered a magazine that covers everything EXCEPT
Magic? There's plenty of card games out there (including Jyhad and
Netrunner) which are fun to play but don't have as broad an audience as
Magic. Scrye doesn't really address this forum since it's mostly a
cardlist/price guide.
Cliff
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Check out "Pyramid". It's broad enough that any one game gets only limited
coverage, but has great reviews and industry news. While a SJG publication,
they are suprisingly fair and broad-minded.
Alec
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