Submachine Gun/Malk Starter

Hello all, Going through my cards, against the CE checklist for the starters and I noticed that I appear to have no Submachine Guns. There is supposed to be one in each Malkavian Starter deck, which I opened two of. Unfortunately I sorted my cards together with other CE before noticing this so I cannot identify what I might have gotten in its place. Anybody else not get a Submachine Gun in their Malk starter? Anybody have a deck together still to see if something was in its place? Any help appreciated. -JTP

On Mon, 26 Aug 2002 03:57:31 GMT, "John" <verg...@hotmail.com> wrote: [ quoted text not captured ] Equipment in my unadulterated Malkavian starter: 2x Flak Jacket 2x Flamethrower 13 masters 4 equipment 4 combat 2 political 8 actions 1 ally 14 reactions 31 modifiers ---- 77 library cards Library 2x Ascendance 1x Asylum Hunting Ground 1x Blood Doll 1x Bureaucratic Overload 2x Dementation 1x Effective Management 1x Elysium: The Arboretum 1x Forest of Shadows 2x Misdirection 1x Secure Haven 2x Flak Jacket 2x Flamethrower 2x Disguised Weapon 2x Read Intentions 1x Command of the Harpies 1x Reversal of Fortunes 1x Arson 1x Blessing of Chaos 2x Precognizant Mobility 1x Psychic Veil 3x Pulse of the Canaille 1x Muddled Vampire Hunter 1x Enhanced Senses 1x Surprise Influence 4x Telepathic Counter 4x Telepathic Misdirection 4x Wake with Evening's Freshness 4x Cloak the Gathering 4x Confusion 2x Elder Impersonation 4x Eyes of Chaos 4x Faceless Night 6x Lost in Crowds 1x Marked Path 1x Scrying of Secrets 5x Spying Mission

The Lasombra wrote: > > On Mon, 26 Aug 2002 03:57:31 GMT, "John" <verg...@hotmail.com> > wrote: > > >Hello all, > >Going through my cards, against the CE checklist for the starters and I > >noticed that I appear to have no Submachine Guns. There is supposed to be > >one in each Malkavian Starter deck, which I opened two of. Unfortunately I > >sorted my cards together with other CE before noticing this so I cannot > >identify what I might have gotten in its place. > > >Anybody else not get a Submachine Gun in their Malk starter? Anybody have a > >deck together still to see if something was in its place? > > Equipment in my unadulterated Malkavian starter: > > 2x Flak Jacket > 2x Flamethrower In theory, the Submachine Gun should be the last card in the library of an unshuffled Malkavian starter deck right out of the pack. Just below the Eyes of Chaos. -- LSJ (vte...@white-wolf.com) V:TES Net.Rep for White Wolf, Inc. Links to V:TES news, rules, cards, utilities, and tournament calendar: http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/

"LSJ" <vte...@white-wolf.com> wrote in message news:3D6A1649...@white-wolf.com... > In theory, the Submachine Gun should be the last card in the library > of an unshuffled Malkavian starter deck right out of the pack. Just > below the Eyes of Chaos. I appear to have gotten decks with something else, possibly a master card, substituted for the submachine gun. If I had only opened one starter I would have assumed the submachine gun was lost in the shuffle so to speak, but when I should have two of them, I'm pretty sure that they were not there. Oh well. (and no, there was no Xavier or Eye of H in the deck ;-P ) Thanks for help, -JTP

thela...@hotmail.com (The Lasombra) wrote in message news:<Nu6cnSV2Vee...@News.GigaNews.Com>... > On Mon, 26 Aug 2002 03:57:31 GMT, "John" <verg...@hotmail.com> > wrote: > >Hello all, > >Going through my cards, against the CE checklist for the starters and I > >noticed that I appear to have no Submachine Guns. There is supposed to be > >one in each Malkavian Starter deck, which I opened two of. Unfortunately I > >sorted my cards together with other CE before noticing this so I cannot > >identify what I might have gotten in its place. > >Anybody else not get a Submachine Gun in their Malk starter? Anybody have a > >deck together still to see if something was in its place? > 5x Spying Mission This seems to be the problem, or, the only difference between my list of the actual starter I opened and the list posted on the White Wolf site. I have 5 Spying Mission and there are only supposed to be 4. My list agrees with the one posted by Matt Hirsch of Boston. http://www.darkwindrising.com/vampire/precons/cam_malkavian.txt Carpe noctem. Lasombra http://www.TheLasombra.com

The Lasombra wrote: > > thela...@hotmail.com (The Lasombra) wrote in message news:<Nu6cnSV2Vee...@News.GigaNews.Com>... > > On Mon, 26 Aug 2002 03:57:31 GMT, "John" <verg...@hotmail.com> > > wrote: > > >Hello all, > > >Going through my cards, against the CE checklist for the starters and I > > >noticed that I appear to have no Submachine Guns. There is supposed to be > > >one in each Malkavian Starter deck, which I opened two of. Unfortunately I > > >sorted my cards together with other CE before noticing this so I cannot > > >identify what I might have gotten in its place. > > >Anybody else not get a Submachine Gun in their Malk starter? Anybody have a > > >deck together still to see if something was in its place? > > > 5x Spying Mission > > This seems to be the problem, or, the only difference between my list > of the actual starter I opened and the list posted on the White Wolf > site. I have 5 Spying Mission and there are only supposed to be 4. Yes, I've heard from one other player who opened a starter and found a Spying Mission at the bottom where the Submachine Gun should be. It seems likely that this is the case for all of the Malkavian starters. [ quoted text not captured ]

"LSJ" <vte...@white-wolf.com> wrote in message news:3D6A3A88...@white-wolf.com... [ quoted text not captured ] Yup...no Submachine Gun in my Malk starter... Y

> Equipment in my unadulterated My, what a beautiful word !! In it, there is adult, adultere (which in french means sleeping with someone else when you're married), erated, rated, and it sound a little like "obliterated" Better wash your mouth with Shadow Soap (TM) after saying such a word, Lasombra Dude !! ;-) Witty Orpheus

> > It seems likely that this is the case for all of the Malkavian starters. So does that mean that Sub-Machine Gun is not part of the Camarilla Edition? Chris who still hasn't received his cards. :(

Chris Arthur wrote: > > > > > It seems likely that this is the case for all of the Malkavian starters. > > So does that mean that Sub-Machine Gun is not part of the Camarilla Edition? Yes. [ quoted text not captured ]