[deck] Giovanni's Death Pact

Hi all, I response to Xian's question if i would have a deck around death pact and Julius, I had to search deep in old stuffy files, but here it is! It it PRE Sabbat (!) And made in response to the large Gangrel Familia, that was terrorizing the neighbourhoods back in the days, with their Claws. So for your amusement i give you in ELDB format,DEATH PACT: Never thought you'd see this huh?? Deck name: Death Pact?? Crypt: (13 cards) [Min: 4, Max: 34, Avg: 4.38] 2 Carlotta Giovanni (Giovanni, 7, do NE ob PO) 1 Cristofero Giovanni (Giovanni, 3, ne po) 1 Francesca Giovanni (Giovanni, 4, do ne po) 1 Gaspare Giovanni (Giovanni, 6, ce ne PO) 4 Julius (Caitiff, 1, qu se) 1 Mario Giovanni (Giovanni, 3, ne po) 2 Regina Giovanni, The Right Hand of Augustus (Giovanni, 10, au DO fo NE PO, 2 votes) 1 Rudolpho Giovanni (Giovanni, 3, NE) Library: (86 cards) Master (15) 1 Anarch Troublemaker 2 Blood Doll 2 Dreams of the Sphinx 1 Giant's Blood 2 Heidelburg Castle, Germany 2 Minion Tap 1 Morgue Hunting Ground 3 Potence 1 Secure Haven Minion (71) 3 Ambrosius, The Ferryman (Wraith) 1 Arson 1 Bomb 4 Computer Hacking 1 Death of My Conscience, The 6 Death Pact 3 Deflection 3 Erosion 5 Fake Out 1 Fists of Death 4 Govern the Unaligned 1 Grave Robbing 1 Guiseppe, Gravedigger 5 Immortal Grapple 2 Kindred Coercion 1 Leonardo, Mortician 7 Spectral Divination 3 Talbot's Chainsaw 4 Taste of Vitae 5 Torn Signpost 5 Undead Strength 5 Wake with Evening's Freshness LOL -- A.A.H. Tim Eijpe V:EKN Prince of Utrecht The Netherlands E-mail: time...@hotmail.com PROPHECY OF GEHENNA: On The First Day Of Gehenna The Shrieking Wind Shall Be Silent And When A Black Sun Hangs From A Somber Sky Caine's Sleeping Children Shall Once Again Arise Ancient-The Cainian Chronicles Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.

(LSJ, skip to the last paragraph) [ quoted text not captured ] I know this is partially in the "silly" category, and so isn't really here for critique, but I'm surprised you don't have even one Compel the Spirit in there. I mean, Leonardo and Ambrosius both seems to be asking for it. Also, once you've got a couple Compel the Spirits in the deck, you HAVE to throw in Scapelli. He seems expensive, but he's usually just tough enough (especially when you can Compel him back) that his little bleeds of one just keep getting let through. And, this kind of begs the question. Death Pact has a retainer symbol on it, so it kind of is a retainer, though it's not normally equipped. Can you Compel the Spirit to "regain" a burned Death Pact retainer? And, more importantly to poor maligned Patrizia, can she fetch it out of your ash heap, even if you just discarded it? (The bonus of Patrizia over Compel the Spirit, there, that she can get *discarded* retainers) -- Pat Ricochet Soul Jar'rn Fool of Atlanta

Pat Ricochet wrote: > (LSJ, skip to the last paragraph) > And, this kind of begs the question. Death Pact has a retainer symbol > on it, so it kind of is a retainer, though it's not normally equipped. Can > you Compel the Spirit to "regain" a burned Death Pact retainer? And, more > importantly to poor maligned Patrizia, can she fetch it out of your ash > heap, even if you just discarded it? (The bonus of Patrizia over Compel the > Spirit, there, that she can get *discarded* retainers) No. Death Pact is just an action (see the official card text). -- LSJ (vte...@white-wolf.com) V:TES Net.Rep for White Wolf, Inc. Links to revised rulebook, rulings, errata, and tournament rules: http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/