(LSJ) obsolete ruling ?

hello ! i was just visiting http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/index.php?line=rulings to spare myself from the regular tournament mistakes you can do... and i saw this in the combat section : The damage modifier must be played before the end of the Choose Strike phase in order to affect the current strike. [RTR 19960112] Can i know how this interact with, say, body arsenal ? if this card is played à la wolf claws, it is played in a window after the choose strike phase and before resolution of the strikes. According to this ruling the +1 str bonus would be lost if the card is played at this point... so is there something i don't catch here ? :)

In message <1169423239....@11g2000cwr.googlegroups.com>, Reydax <Rey...@gmail.com> writes: >The damage modifier must be played before the end of the Choose Strike >phase in order to affect the current strike. [RTR 19960112] > >Can i know how this interact with, say, body arsenal ? >if this card is played à la wolf claws, it is played in a window after >the choose strike phase and before resolution of the strikes. No, it's not. Also, if you follow the link on that RTR, Wolf Claws is the named example of a damage modifier. 1) Start Choose Strike Phase 2) A damage modifier could be played now, if appropriate - for example, I might want to cycle my Wolf Claws to pull a Scorpion Sting 3) Acting Methuselah chooses strike. 4) A damage modifier could be played now, if appropriate 5) Defending Methuslah chooses strike. 6) A damage modifier could be played now, if appropriate 7) End Choose Strike Phase. 8) Any damage modifiers played from now on will not affect the current strike resolution. The point is that you cannot play, say, Wolf Claws or Body Arsenal when you know the opponent isn't playing Skin of Steel, or whatever, and have it affect the current strike. But you can play it immediately after both strikes have been chosen, but before you leave the phase.. -- James Coupe PGP Key: 0x5D623D5D YOU ARE IN ERROR. EBD690ECD7A1FB457CA2 NO-ONE IS SCREAMING. 13D7E668C3695D623D5D THANK YOU FOR YOUR COOPERATION.

James Coupe wrote: > In message <1169423239....@11g2000cwr.googlegroups.com>, Reydax > <Rey...@gmail.com> writes: >>The damage modifier must be played before the end of the Choose Strike >>phase in order to affect the current strike. [RTR 19960112] >> >>Can i know how this interact with, say, body arsenal ? >>if this card is played à la wolf claws, it is played in a window after >>the choose strike phase and before resolution of the strikes. > > No, it's not. Also, if you follow the link on that RTR, Wolf Claws is > the named example of a damage modifier. > > 1) Start Choose Strike Phase > > 2) A damage modifier could be played now, if appropriate - for example, > I might want to cycle my Wolf Claws to pull a Scorpion Sting > > 3) Acting Methuselah chooses strike. > > 4) A damage modifier could be played now, if appropriate > > 5) Defending Methuslah chooses strike. > > 6) A damage modifier could be played now, if appropriate > > 7) End Choose Strike Phase. > > 8) Any damage modifiers played from now on will not affect the current > strike resolution. Just to clarify, _either_ of the methuselahs can play damage modifiers at step 6, not just the defending methuselah (and in fact the acting methuselah gets the option first, as per normal sequencing). -- salem http://users.tpg.com.au/adsltqna/vtes/ (replace 'hotmail' with 'yahoo' to email)

James Coupe wrote: > In message <1169423239....@11g2000cwr.googlegroups.com>, Reydax > <Rey...@gmail.com> writes: >> The damage modifier must be played before the end of the Choose Strike >> phase in order to affect the current strike. [RTR 19960112] >> >> Can i know how this interact with, say, body arsenal ? >> if this card is played à la wolf claws, it is played in a window after >> the choose strike phase and before resolution of the strikes. > > No, it's not. Also, if you follow the link on that RTR, Wolf Claws is > the named example of a damage modifier. > > 1) Start Choose Strike Phase > > 2) A damage modifier could be played now, if appropriate - for example, > I might want to cycle my Wolf Claws to pull a Scorpion Sting > > 3) Acting Methuselah chooses strike. > > 4) A damage modifier could be played now, if appropriate > > 5) Defending Methuslah chooses strike. > > 6) A damage modifier could be played now, if appropriate > > 7) End Choose Strike Phase. > > 8) Any damage modifiers played from now on will not affect the current > strike resolution. > > The point is that you cannot play, say, Wolf Claws or Body Arsenal when > you know the opponent isn't playing Skin of Steel, or whatever, and have > it affect the current strike. But you can play it immediately after > both strikes have been chosen, but before you leave the phase.. Correct.