Remembered that I should ask just to be sure:
If a minion is cought in a "must do action, cannot do it" state, for
instance due to having hunted whith Troile's revenge and using freak drive,
and then is again enabled to act freely, again for instance if the TR is
burned by another minion. Can the first minion act freely again? I.e. is
there no conflict with having been forced to do nothing...
"Wave of Lethargy
- combat
<i> Only usable before range is determined. Manuevers and presses cost the
opposing vampire an additional blood to play this round."
What's the defenition of "play" here? Does it cost extra to use IR goggles,
manuever from bum's rush etc.?
"Clandestine Contract
Action
Assamite
1 pool
Requires an Assamite with a capacity above 4.
Contract.
(D) Enter combat with a ready minion controlled by another Methuselah and
put this card on that minion. This Assamite is chosen for this contract.
This Assamite may enter combat with the minion with this card as a +1
stealth (D) action.
Common"
Is the the acting assamite chosen for the contract before or after combat,
i.e. can he use Khabar:Honor and Provision in the combat of the Clandestine
contract
Also: Can Zahir get a Clandestine contract as an action?
"Zahir, Hand of the Silsila
Assamite
Capacity: 6
CEL OBF qui tha
Independent: Zahir can search your library for a contract and put it in your
hand as a +1 stealth action. Discard down to your hand size and shuffle your
library afterward. (Blood Cursed)
Uncommon"
In message <9h5pld$pri$1...@taliesin.netcom.net.uk>, Henke
<d98...@stud.hh.se> writes
>Remembered that I should ask just to be sure:
>
>If a minion is cought in a "must do action, cannot do it" state, for
>instance due to having hunted whith Troile's revenge and using freak drive,
>and then is again enabled to act freely, again for instance if the TR is
>burned by another minion. Can the first minion act freely again?
The minion would then no longer be forced to do anything, and could do
what it wanted.
>"Wave of Lethargy
>- combat
><i> Only usable before range is determined. Manuevers and presses cost the
>opposing vampire an additional blood to play this round."
>
>What's the defenition of "play" here? Does it cost extra to use IR goggles,
>manuever from bum's rush etc.?
No, only maneuvers that you "play" - basically, minion cards from your
hand.
>"Clandestine Contract
>Action
>Assamite
>1 pool
>Requires an Assamite with a capacity above 4.
>Contract.
>(D) Enter combat with a ready minion controlled by another Methuselah and
>put this card on that minion. This Assamite is chosen for this contract.
>This Assamite may enter combat with the minion with this card as a +1
>stealth (D) action.
>Common"
>
>Is the the acting assamite chosen for the contract before or after combat,
When the action resolves successfully, all the effects happen at that
time - including the entering of combat and the selection.
>i.e. can he use Khabar:Honor and Provision in the combat of the Clandestine
>contract
Yes.
>Also: Can Zahir get a Clandestine contract as an action?
That's the point of the bold-type "Contract" on it in the text box, yes.
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James Coupe wrote:
> In message <9h5pld$pri$1...@taliesin.netcom.net.uk>, Henke <d98...@stud.hh.se> writes> >If a minion is cought in a "must do action, cannot do it" state, for
> >instance due to having hunted whith Troile's revenge and using freak drive,
> >and then is again enabled to act freely, again for instance if the TR is
> >burned by another minion. Can the first minion act freely again?
>
> The minion would then no longer be forced to do anything, and could do
> what it wanted.
Correct.
> >"Wave of Lethargy
> >- combat
> ><i> Only usable before range is determined. Manuevers and presses cost the
> >opposing vampire an additional blood to play this round."
> >
> >What's the defenition of "play" here? Does it cost extra to use IR goggles,
> >manuever from bum's rush etc.?
>
> No, only maneuvers that you "play" - basically, minion cards from your
> hand.
Correct.
> >"Clandestine Contract
> >Action
> >Assamite
> >1 pool
> >Requires an Assamite with a capacity above 4.
> >Contract.
> >(D) Enter combat with a ready minion controlled by another Methuselah and
> >put this card on that minion. This Assamite is chosen for this contract.
> >This Assamite may enter combat with the minion with this card as a +1
> >stealth (D) action.
> >Common"
> >
> >Is the the acting assamite chosen for the contract before or after combat,
>
> When the action resolves successfully, all the effects happen at that
> time - including the entering of combat and the selection.
Correct.
> >i.e. can he use Khabar:Honor and Provision in the combat of the Clandestine
> >contract
>
> Yes.
Correct.
> >Also: Can Zahir get a Clandestine contract as an action?
>
> That's the point of the bold-type "Contract" on it in the text box, yes.
Correct.
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Here are a couple of questions that came up today:
1. "Antoinette DuChamp: If Antoinette uses an action or strike that
requires Celerity, she burns an additional blood." Can she play a
distraction at basic, which costs her 1 for the action, and then not
pay what she can't afford? Basically is it part of the cost of the
action, or a result of taking the action?
2. When does domain challenge decide who is getting damaged? Someone
played domain challenge, and no blocks were declared. He then played
disarming presence, which forced all vampires that wanted to
vote(other then his own) to tap. Are the terms, of how much pool each
player burns, set after the vote is called, or will it only take
effect after it is passed, checking to see who attempted to vote it
down or was already tapped?
In article <7ab27d37.01062...@posting.google.com>,
Aaron <roans...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>Here are a couple of questions that came up today:
>
>1. "Antoinette DuChamp: If Antoinette uses an action or strike that
>requires Celerity, she burns an additional blood." Can she play a
>distraction at basic, which costs her 1 for the action, and then not
>pay what she can't afford? Basically is it part of the cost of the
>action, or a result of taking the action?
It's a burn blood effect. Since it doesn't specify _successful_
actions, I'd say it happens when the action card is played, which
means she can't pay for the Distraction when it resolves.
>2. When does domain challenge decide who is getting damaged? Someone
>played domain challenge, and no blocks were declared. He then played
>disarming presence, which forced all vampires that wanted to
>vote(other then his own) to tap. Are the terms, of how much pool each
>player burns, set after the vote is called, or will it only take
>effect after it is passed, checking to see who attempted to vote it
>down or was already tapped?
Domain Challenge checks tapped vampires at the time the vote concludes.
It combos quite nicely with Disarming Presence.
gomi
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Gomi no Sensei wrote:
> Aaron <roans...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >1. "Antoinette DuChamp: If Antoinette uses an action or strike that
> >requires Celerity, she burns an additional blood." Can she play a
> >distraction at basic, which costs her 1 for the action, and then not
> >pay what she can't afford? Basically is it part of the cost of the
> >action, or a result of taking the action?
>
> It's a burn blood effect. Since it doesn't specify _successful_
> actions, I'd say it happens when the action card is played, which
> means she can't pay for the Distraction when it resolves.
Correct.
> >2. When does domain challenge decide who is getting damaged? Someone
> >played domain challenge, and no blocks were declared. He then played
> >disarming presence, which forced all vampires that wanted to
> >vote(other then his own) to tap. Are the terms, of how much pool each
> >player burns, set after the vote is called, or will it only take
> >effect after it is passed, checking to see who attempted to vote it
> >down or was already tapped?
>
> Domain Challenge checks tapped vampires at the time the vote concludes.
> It combos quite nicely with Disarming Presence.
Correct.
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> > >2. When does domain challenge decide who is getting damaged? Someone
> > >played domain challenge, and no blocks were declared. He then played
> > >disarming presence, which forced all vampires that wanted to
> > >vote(other then his own) to tap. Are the terms, of how much pool each
> > >player burns, set after the vote is called, or will it only take
> > >effect after it is passed, checking to see who attempted to vote it
> > >down or was already tapped?
> >
> > Domain Challenge checks tapped vampires at the time the vote concludes.
> > It combos quite nicely with Disarming Presence.
>
> Correct.
Apparently it also combos well with mind numb/freak drive. Domain
challenge/disarming presence. To have a lot of other peoples tapped
minions for several turns. Followed by multiple domain challenges for
maximum damage.(really kills weeine decks as we saw)
"Aaron" <roans...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:7ab27d37.01062...@posting.google.com...
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Hey Aaron, (and LSJ I suppose)
Is there room in there, after blocks have been declined and before the
referendum goes to a vote, to use Freak Drive, so you don't even take damage
for the vote caller?
Matt
"Matt Latham" <mla...@diamondtoolmfg.com> wrote:
>"Aaron" <roans...@yahoo.com> wrote in message>> Apparently it also combos well with mind numb/freak drive. Domain
>> challenge/disarming presence. To have a lot of other peoples tapped
>> minions for several turns. Followed by multiple domain challenges for
>> maximum damage.(really kills weeine decks as we saw)>
>Hey Aaron, (and LSJ I suppose)
>
>Is there room in there, after blocks have been declined and before the
>referendum goes to a vote, to use Freak Drive, so you don't even take damage
>for the vote caller?
No. Freak Drive is played after the action resolves.
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