rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad

Hidden Lurker

3 messages from 3 participants · 12 November 1996 – 13 November 1996
original thread on Google Groups

James Hamblin

(Officially) usable by a tapped vampire? Thanks. James -- +-------------------+----------------------+--------------------------+ | James E. Hamblin | Cornell University | "Purple is a fruit." | | je...@cornell.edu | Senior Math/CS Major | -- Homer Simpson | +-------------------+----------------------+--------------------------+

Steven Bucy

James Hamblin <je...@cornell.edu> wrote in article <3288C...@cornell.edu>... > (Officially) usable by a tapped vampire? Nope. One of the net-reps (when we had one) made a ruling that even though Hidden Lurker was now a action modifier, that it could not be played by a tapped vamp. > Thanks. Your welcome. -- Steve Bucy I'd be better off undead... "Hmmm. I notice the number of conditional phrases in there... _seems_ to indicate a weakness, _may_ be vulnerable in theory." - G'Ka

L. Scott Johnson

James Hamblin <je...@cornell.edu> writes: >(Officially) usable by a tapped vampire? Unknown. Last word on the subject: Subject: Re: Hidden Lurker (was Assamites) From: "Shawn F. Carnes" <sw...@castle.wizards.com> Date: 1996/08/20 Message-Id: <321A23...@castle.wizards.com> Newsgroups: rec.games.trading-Cards.jyhad The Corrupter wrote: > SHAWN: > Can you look into how hidden lurker is to now be read (Specific card > text)...? You betcha. I'll bring it before the RT tomorrow. Previously, Tom intimated that the new card text needed errata to tap the modifying vampire: Subject: Re: Rules Team Rulings: 05/30/96 From: aa...@cats.ucsc.edu (Thomas R Wylie) Date: 1996/06/10 Message-Id: <4phpcf$l...@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> Newsgroups: rec.games.trading-Cards.jyhad Whups. Both versions of Hidden Lurker tap the vampire playing them, even though they are action modifiers (more errata to the VTES version). Tom Wylie rec.games.trading-cards.* Network Representative for aa...@cats.ucsc.edu Wizards of the Coast, Inc. And, he had said that they had decided to just make the card an action modifier because of "popular vote :-)" (as opposed to issuing the (D) symbol errata), so I'll go out on limb and say that that means that, officially, it's supposed to work as an action modifier as originaly (mis-)printed. Popular vote context from my house rules list: Hidden Lurker - is an action modifier, not an action. Text as follows: Usable only by an untapped Vampire other than the Acting Minion after the Acting Minion is blocked and combat is over. Tap this Vampire. This Vampire now enters combat with the Blocking Minion. The first round of combat, the Blocking Minion cannot use any strikes. Superior: As above, but with an optional Press. [LSJ] [JC] [CSA] [ASHK] [JHJ] [ALS] So, to stretch the letter of the law into the spirit of the law: Yes, Hidden Lurker requires an untapped vampire. (This ruling-chain won't hold up in any court, mind you - we still need an official clarification/erratum for that). -- L. Scott Johnson (sjoh...@math.sc.edu) | Experience is something you http://www.math.sc.edu/cgi-bin/sjohnson/home | get just after you need it. Graphics Specialist and V:tES Rulemonger. |