rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad

Black Sunrise and Decline to Block

4 messages from 3 participants · 12 January 2006
original thread on Google Groups

jeff...@pacbell.net

Can you decline to block an action and then Black Sunrise a tapped and play further reactions, like Deflection? Black Sunrise Quietus Reaction Only usable by a tapped vampire qui: Only usable during a (D) action directed at you or something you control. This vampire untaps and attempts to block. QUI: As above, but usable on any action Jeff

LSJ

[ quoted text not captured ] No. You can't play Black Sunrise after you decline to block, because you cannot attempt to block at that point.

Tom Duncan

LSJ wrote: > No. You can't play Black Sunrise after you decline to block, because > you cannot attempt to block at that point. Since we have a thread going: Can you play Black Sunrise even though you KNOW you can't block, i.e. the vampire is not a legal candidate to block. This would include being the target "cannot attempt to block effects" and cross-table actions that are not directed. (I'm assuming the answer is "no" to both situations.) Can you play BS if a the vampire is failing to block already (due to inherent or accumulated stealth)? I assume yes, for the potential exists to draw a card that will allow the attempt to succeed.

LSJ

Tom Duncan wrote: > LSJ wrote: > > No. You can't play Black Sunrise after you decline to block, because > > you cannot attempt to block at that point. > > Since we have a thread going: > > Can you play Black Sunrise even though you KNOW you can't block, i.e. > the vampire is not a legal candidate to block. This would include being > the target "cannot attempt to block effects" and cross-table actions > that are not directed. (I'm assuming the answer is "no" to both > situations.) Correct. The question is "can you block". "Do you know you can't block" is just a restatement of that question (in the negative, of course). Black Sunrise requires a block attempt. If you can't attempt to block, then you can't play Black Sunrise. > Can you play BS if a the vampire is failing to block already (due to > inherent or accumulated stealth)? I assume yes, for the potential > exists to draw a card that will allow the attempt to succeed. Only if he's already tapped (meaning, only if he played a Wake to attempt to block or somesuch). Card text on Black Sunrise restricts it to tapped vampires.