rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad

Q: Rotschrek on Rutor's Hand or Daring the Dawn?

4 messages from 4 participants · 07 February 1997 – 10 February 1997
original thread on Google Groups

Darby Keeney

OK - Here's one of a series for the Rule Lords; Rotschrek Card Text: Play when a minion attempts to use aggravated damage against a vampire, whether successfully or not. Combat ends before damage is resolved. That vampire is put in torpor, tapped, with this card on it. During the vampire's next untap phase, burn this card instead of untapping the vampire. I know a Methesulah can Rotschrek on a Pulled Fangs or other card where agg damage is inflicted on an OPPOSING minion from the RTR 961113 ("can be played in response to agg damage done by none-strike cards.") But what if that agg damage is done to the ACTING minion ONLY as a result of an action (Rutor's Hand) or a modifier (Daring the Dawn)? My play group had a spirited discussion on this topic last night - and the guy facing the Rots was vehement that it could only be played in response to cards doing damage to opposing minions, and/or in response to combat cards. I felt that he could have been Rots bait, especially in light of the fact that one can now use combat cards to prevent damage outside of combat - so why not use Rots (a pseudo-combat card) outside of combat? What's the consensus? *** Disclaimer: These are the opinions of the poster not Amgen Inc.***

L. Scott Johnson

dke...@amgen.com (Darby Keeney) writes: >OK - Here's one of a series for the Rule Lords; >Rotschrek Card Text: Play when a minion attempts to use aggravated >damage against a vampire, whether successfully or not. Combat ends >before damage is resolved. That vampire is put in torpor, tapped, with >this card on it. During the vampire's next untap phase, burn this card >instead of untapping the vampire. > >I know a Methesulah can Rotschrek on a Pulled Fangs or other card >where agg damage is inflicted on an OPPOSING minion from the RTR >961113 ("can be played in response to agg damage done by none-strike >cards.") >But what if that agg damage is done to the ACTING minion ONLY as a >result of an action (Rutor's Hand) or a modifier (Daring the Dawn)? Rotschreck cannot be played at this time. It can only be played when one vampire attempts to inflict aggravated damage on another minion. Self-inflicted aggravated damage is not subject to Rotschreck. Rotschreck is also inherently only playable during combat, since it the first thing it does is End Combat. -- L. Scott Johnson (sjoh...@math.sc.edu) | Kirk: How's Ensign Pilsbury? http://www.math.sc.edu/cgi-bin/sjohnson/home | McCoy: He's Bread, Jim. Graphics Specialist and V:tES Rulemonger. |

salem christ....

L. Scott Johnson wrote: > > dke...@amgen.com (Darby Keeney) writes: > >OK - Here's one of a series for the Rule Lords; > >Rotschrek Card Text: Play when a minion attempts to use aggravated > >damage against a vampire, whether successfully or not. Combat ends > >before damage is resolved. That vampire is put in torpor, tapped, with > >this card on it. During the vampire's next untap phase, burn this card > >instead of untapping the vampire. > Rotschreck cannot be played at this time. It can only be played when > one vampire attempts to inflict aggravated damage on another minion. > the card says when a minion attempts to use against a vampire...not a vampire against a minion...has there been some errata that completely re-writes the card? ta, salem....

Pheersum

salem christ.... wrote: > > L. Scott Johnson wrote: (question about rotschreck use snipped) > > Rotschreck cannot be played at this time. It can only be played when > > one vampire attempts to inflict aggravated damage on another minion. > > > > the card says when a minion attempts to use against a vampire...not a > vampire against a minion...has there been some errata that completely > re-writes the card? Yes, the errata is as follows: > Rotschreck - Master Out-Of-Turn: > Should be read as follows: "Play on a vampire that attempts to > inflict aggravated damage. Combat ends, and that vampire goes into > torpor. During the vampire's controller's next untap phase, burn > this card instead of untapping the vampire." [RTR] > Can be played in response to aggravated damage done by non-strike > cards. (Pulled Fangs, etc.) [RTR 961113] -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- pheersum inhabits the mortal shell of eric schultheis. one channels mailto://phee...@netwizards.net. nature says,"go ahead, have as many babies as you want. something will eat them." ---------------------------------------------------------------------