Atonement / Secure Haven

A question came up with a group in Austin. Can a Secure Havened Vampire with Atonement have an action taken against the Atonement? Or, does the Secure Haven only protect against Bum's Rush, Ambush, Corruption, Mind Rape, Temptation, and the like? Thanks. Carpe Noctem. Jeff 1jbt...@unixstew.tstc.edu http://unixstew.tstc.edu/~1jbt2197/vtes.htm -----== Posted via Deja News, The Leader in Internet Discussion ==----- http://www.dejanews.com/ Now offering spam-free web-based newsreading

bi...@scn.org wrote: > A question came up with a group in Austin. > > Can a Secure Havened Vampire with Atonement have an action taken > against > the Atonement? Or, does the Secure Haven only protect against Bum's > Rush, > Ambush, Corruption, Mind Rape, Temptation, and the like? > No D actions can be taken against that vampire. Including stealing the rack, de-Atonement-ing, ambush, temptation, etc. David

In article <34F8F79F...@unsw.edu.au>, [ quoted text not captured ] The D action given by the Rack and the Atonement are against the cards not against the vampire. How does protection for the Vampire extend to those cards? [ quoted text not captured ]

David Naseby wrote: > bi...@scn.org wrote: > > A question came up with a group in Austin. > > > > Can a Secure Havened Vampire with Atonement have an action taken > > against > > the Atonement? Or, does the Secure Haven only protect against Bum's > > Rush, > > Ambush, Corruption, Mind Rape, Temptation, and the like? > > > > No D actions can be taken against that vampire. Including stealing the > rack, de-Atonement-ing, ambush, temptation, etc. Secure Haven only prevents (D) actions from targetting the vampire. The Rack can still be stolen, Atonement can still be burned, etc. because the actions to do so are not directed at the vampire. Bum's Rush, Ambush, Corruption, (superior) Mind Rape, Temptation, etc. are all protected against, since those actions target the vampire himself. -- L. Scott Johnson (vte...@wizards.com) Official VtES Net.Rep for Wizards of the Coast. (*) - Subject to review by Rules Team